Hurricane Part II

Moonwind

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Greetings from (almost) Ground Zero. I just read thru the Katrina thread and decided to start a new one so it would be seen rather than lost on page 10. I hope everyone does see it, because I'm pretty well discouraged by what I was reading.

First to SDog - Everyone seems to have gotten pretty wrapped up on the other thread in their petty little political discussion and seemed to miss the fact that your family lost everything. I want to be the first to say I am so sorry! I wish you and yours the best and I am glad they got out.

Next to those who have loved ones down on the coast - I hope you hear from them soon or hear something about them soon. Phones down there are spotty at best, so don't give up hope!

Now, to what REALLY was going on down here - not the good old sensationalized news. The things that are not being show because they won't bring in the ratings like seeing the Superdome, but things just as bad - things that are happening to poor blacks, poor whites, middle-class blacks, middle-class whites, and upper class blacks and whites ... these things that you aren't seeing on CNN, MSNBC, or FoxNews. Why?? Because the good old ratings wouldn't be as good showing the reality of the ENTIRE GULF COAST! Most of what I was reading on that thread tonight (which, by the way, was the first time I've been on line in almost a week because of the Hurricane) is half-knowledge that all of you outside the area have been getting from extreme bias news people. How many of you have heard the names Pascagoula, Moss Point, Gautier (Mississippi) - huh?? How many times was CNN or MSNBC broadcasting from there? What about DiamondHead? Anyone know of any news stations that reported from there? New Orleans received 90% of the coverage of this disaster - but was only 25% of the areas hit! Why? Because of RATINGS!

As some of you know my husband and I live on the Mississippi Gulf Coast, in Pascagoula - one of the names none of you have heard much about on the news. At this moment we still do not know if we have a home to go back to. We have spent the past 6 days in middle hell - better than most, but **** city compared to many. We left on Saturday night before the storm. We went to a small town in central Mississippi to ride it out, a place we had been many times before. Prentiss has a small motel that we have gone to for other storms and thought we'd be OK. Well, when the storm hit, the eye hit Mississippi. It came right up to Prentiss (and beyond). We were getting 100+ MPH wind there. We lost power early Monday morning. Trees blocked all ways out for two days - so from Monday until Wednesday we were in a motel room which was soaked as water leaked in under the door and dropped from the ceiling, with no power in 90+ degree heat. But at least we had a roof over our heads, which is more than I can say for most of Mississippi from the Coast up to 150 miles inland! How much reporting has there been on that? How many people outside of the area know that Poplarville Mississippi and Picayune Mississippi NO LONGER EXIST! How many have heard about the bodies that are being pulled from wreckage in Kiln and Soucier? In the 10s, 20s, and 30s from small towns in Mississippi that have populations of 3000? We had a battery TV with us, but we didn't have any idea what was going on in our town, if we even had a town, because the news reported almost NOTHING but New Orleans .. oh, and how fascinating it was to see the casino barge on the north side of 90 in Biloxi and Gulfport. Would it have killed the ratings to hear once every few hours about someplace else? I guess so, since we never once heard what had happend to Northrup-Grumman Ship Systems, the BIGGEST PRIVATE INDUSTRY IN ALL OF MISSISSIPPI! Did any of you out there hear anything about the Shipyard ... if it was still there or not? Probably not since Ingalls Shipyard didn't include looting.

So, anyway, we finally get out of Prentiss - thanks to the city police, sheriffs, and county workers (as well as a lot of Prentiss citizens) getting out and cutting up the trees so that people could move out. Only one problem. We could only go one of two directions, both of which had suffered storm damage and without knowing if there was any gas available. But we couldn't stay where we were - the town was running low on food, no ice, no water and the motel was getting worse and worse by the hour. But even then, we were the lucky ones in many ways. We had taken food and water with us so we had more than many locals had. We decided to go toward Vicksburg, MS and across into Louisiana because there is a Northrop-Grumman branch up there where we hoped we could get news of our home town and find a place to stay with power and water. We made it to the NG plant, but they had no more news about our area than we did, so we still didn't know if Pascagoula still existed. We were lucky enough to find a motel room (not an easy thing to do with 300,000 other displaced persons looking for a place to stay) almost at the Arkansas boarder. Thursday night, for the first time since Sunday we had a hot meal, a hot shower, and a cool room - one with a real working TV. We thought for sure we would finally hear something about our home town, but guess what ... nada. According to all the news we heard, Mississippi ends at Biloxi - it goes neither east nor north - the entire state of Mississippi seems to start at the Louisiana state line and end in Biloxi. Do any of you remember any mention of Jackson County? Hmmmm, I wonder why that name doesn't ring a bell. Maybe because it was seldom if ever mentioned? We stayed at that motel until this morning. We finally had gotten some place that had a working phone so we were able to call some friends outside of Birmingham and ask for a place to stay. Today we drove all the way back across the state of Mississippi, once again seeing the damage up as far as Jackson which may have been mentioned on TV since it is the capital, but I can't swear to it. We made it to our friend's house about 6:00 pm. But we had to wait for a while at her friend's house because our friend had to drive to Mississippi today to get her mother who was also displaced by the storm. So, we finally got a place to "live" almost one week after we locked up our home and left. Which, by the way, we still don't know anything about - if it still stands, half-stands, quarter-stands, or no stands. Why? Because there is still almost no phone service down there ... and no one on the news has BOTHERED TO REPORT ABOUT AN ENTIRE AREA!

Now that I've had that rant, I'd like to say a few general things based on what I read on the other thread, but just discovered this is too long, so I'm going to break it up into two parts.
 
Part 2 of Hurricane Part II

Part 2 of Hurricane Part II

Part 2
Preparation - most people I know prepared for the storm. They put up food, water, medication, yada-yada-yada. But its kinda hard to find that stuff WHEN YOUR HOUSE IS NOTHING BUT STICKS! We prepared. If our house is still standing we have about 40 gallons of fresh water, a generator and gas to run it for 7 or 8 days, a bathtub full of water for flushing the toilet, plenty of canned food to last us for 2 to 3 weeks. If our house is not standing all that stuff may be sitting out on Highway 90 or in Mobile, Alabama. Of those who thought they could ride out the storm, most prepared. But it kinda gets lost when you spend 8 hours in your attic to get away from the rising water.

Riding it Out - most people who ride out a storm do so because their houses have survived other storms. My house survived Camille in 1969 with only a few shingles blown off. We even thought about staying, but because I am disabled we decided not to take the chance of being without power for several days. Others do stay because they can't get out for one reason or another, but there are always shelters available "just in case". Just like the Superdome, there are many displaced persons here in Mississippi, some living in the rubble of their homes, some living in tents if they could find one, some living in cardboard boxes. Have you seen any of them being airlifted or bussed to the Astrodome in Houston? Talk about the forgotten! We have had over 100 confirmed deaths here in Mississippi - where's the coverage about that? Two bodies are shown in New Orleans over and over and over. Why isn't the same being shown in Mississippi? Could it be RATINGS? And that brings me to another rant. Why is the news reporting "bodies tossed on the sidewalk like garbage", "the dead left out in the streets", etc. and NO ONE TAKING EXCEPTION TO THE SENSATIONALIZED LANGUAGE? Let's see, its 98 degrees from New Orleans to Mobile, there is no power, no water, no refrigeration, (in Mississippi no buildings) ... what the hell are the people suppose to do with the dead? According to news reporters (print as well as TV), anything done is wrong. If the body is left where it is - the unfeeling survivors are ignoring the dead. If it is moved its "dumped like trash". What the hell is wrong with these news people? I have friends down there that may or may not have made it and to read or hear that kind of crap makes me sick at my stomach. It is not the poor people stuck in this situation that are disrespecting the dead, its the damn reporters!

And politics - please forgive me for mentioning it, but I'm down here and know what is happening compared to what is being reported. Pres. Bush declared Louisiana and Mississippi a disaster area before the storm hit. Forces were mobilized before the storm hit. When the storm jogged to the east it looked like New Orleans would be spared and Mississippi would bear the brunt of it (which it did, but New Orleans is bringing higher ratings). BUT - nothing can be done until the storm has passed. And no matter where the staging area is, it will take time to get to the areas. No roads, no airports, to train tracks, that kind of travel will take time! Did it take too long? Yes! Why? Ask your congressman in each state you live in (for the US people on the board). Ask them why they could all get back to a special session within one day for Terry Scrivo (sp?) and her feeding tube - the "sanctity of life", BUT TOOK UNTIL THURSDAY AND FRIDAY TO GET BACK TO WASHINGTON WITH THOUSANDS OF LIVES AT STAKE! So don't blaim President Bush alone - blame every politician in every state of both parties - they were all part of the problem. But most of all, blame the media for sensationalizing only a small section of an extremely large tragidy.

Well, I guess I've ranted enough. I hope this has given some of you out there some further insight into what is going on down here, something more than the propaganda coming out of the news centers. My husband (sojrn on these boards) will be driving back down to the coast early next week to find out what, if anything, we have left. I hope by then the news will mention our area, but I'm not going to hold my breath. And to any others from the area, my heart and thoughts are with you, too, as we go through this time together. And I hope none of the DVX community have lost more than just material possessions - and that the DVX community will rally around those of us who are going through this very difficult time.

And to all of you that have donated money, blood, or other things, my deepest, heartfelt thanks!

Moonwind
 
Moonwind, my prayers and thoughts are with you. Thank you for taking the time to post here with your experiences.

BTW, Pascagoula made the news, Trent Lott has a home there that was destroyed. Wow, I wonder if Strom Thurman will help him rebuild?
 
Hey Moonwind--glad to hear you're ok and I hope the best for your home. In general the news coverage has been pretty spotty with a lot of the same stories and images being recycled endlessly through different outlets. I think we've all heard about extensive damage along the coast, but there hasn't been much in the way of specifics. Hopefully, things will work out for you and our thoughts are with you and the other displaced folks.
 
Moonwind - So glad to hear you are ok. I do understand your situation fully. If you need someone to talk to feel free to PM me and I'll give you my number. You can call me collect (if you have access to a phone) if you just need someone to talk to. I'll no longer post openly on the subject here because as you can see from the first reply, SOME people just don't get it and want to make it a political issue.
 
My and my wife's thoughts and prayers go out to you Moonwind and all those affected by the storm.

I don't know if this was mentioned in the previous hurrican post but here is a blog of a guy who is in downtown New Orleans who rode out the storm. If you have time to read it, do so, it doesn't "sugar coat" anything. If you don't well here is some key points, like Moonwind said, everyone was affected; everyone looted; bad isn't a word that sums up the damage and destruction.

I hope people take the time to see thier own neighbors in trouble and lend a hand. It is time for the Amercian community to put all this crap behind and work together.
 
Moonwind, all the best to you and your family. I hope your story has a happy ending with your house still standing.
Thanks for your first person report, my thoughts are with you and the other victims of this enormous tragedy.
 
Thank you Moonwind, for a rant of reason. Stay safe and keep us updated on your situation.

I have a very very dear friend who makes his home in Gulfport and he evacuated to a friend's home in Georgia. He is lucky, though wont be able to go back home for a few weeks, IF there is anything for him to go back home to.

I have heard Pascagoula (sp?) make the news, but cannot recall details, I'm sorry to say. I am not too familiar with the area to make mental geographical distinctions.

The political-ness of the situation in the media has kept me from even reading thru the other post, so I wouldnt get much angrier than I already am, but I am glad I read thru this one.

My thoughts and prayers are with those touched by this disaster.

Stay safe,
Terri
 
Moonwind my best to you and your family in this very challenging time.

I am very sad about what is happening in your area, as it is one of my favourite places to travel to...

peace.
 
Thank god your alive and well Moonwind. It puts it deeper into perspective with reports like that (and Sirius). I do blame the politicians at every level on this one and should always know the news if after ratings.
 
Thank you, Moonwind, for finally giving a real perspective and not a network one of what that whole area is going through. My prayers go with you.
 
Thank you all for your good wishes! Last night was the first night I felt completely safe and secure rather so I went to sleep right after posting and have only been awake about an hour. The relief of having a "known" place to lay our heads is beyond belief. I have never felt quite so desperate in my life - and I've been through other hurricanes, the Northridge Quake, tornados, and the riots in LA, but this one was by far the most helpless and displaced I have ever felt. And we are the lucky ones - right now we have all the comforts, including friends surrounding us. There are still so many that are stuck down on the coast with little or no relief in sight for weeks to come!

Terri - I am so glad your friend got out of Gulfport. We ran into some folks who had a Gulfport newspaper (The Sun Herald) on Friday and it is really bad there. Do you know where your friend lives? If it is closer to I-10 there is a chance, but almost anything within half to 3/4s of a mile up from the beach is gone. The destruction is almost beyond comprehension from the pictures I saw. But, just like with most natural disasters strange things happen. In one picture, amid toothpicks that used to be homes is one house standing undamaged in all its glory. So it is possible that your friend will find something left. But my heart goes out to all those that live in Harrison and Handcock Counties. Those were the places closest to the eye, so the wide-spread damage will be the worst there.

Zac - I didn't see an addy for the blog on your post. I would love to read it!

David - I did hear that Trent's house was lost. So was Gene Taylor's, our House Rep in congress. Right now those are about the only two politicians I sympathize with because they have lost everything, just like the other victims of this disaster - and because the only news (what little there was) I could get about our area was through the Washington offices of the two of them. I'm really gonna miss Trent's house because it was one of our 150+ year old homes down on the beach. I'd love to know if the Longfellow House is still standing, but I guess I'll have to wait until we can get back down there to find out. I'll be ready to yell at Trent and Gene next month and get back to "politics as usual", but for this month they are just neighbors that have lost everything, too.

It has been a wild and crazy week! This time last Saturday I was filling water containers, getting clothes washed, and all the other things you do for Hurricane prep. Today we are finally safe - one week of ups, downs, and sidewayses that have been wilder than any roller coaster anywhere! Scott will be heading back to the coast on Monday or Tuesday to see what we may have left. Luckily the DVX is sitting in our bedroom here where we are staying. He will be taking it with him and taping what he finds both on the way down and when he gets there. In a few weeks we may have some unbelievable footage to post here!

I'll keep y'all up to date!

And once again, THANK YOU ALL!

Moonwind (Lanie)
 
Moonwind said:
. . . these things that you aren't seeing on CNN, MSNBC, or FoxNews. Why?
Hey, Moonwind! Wonderful to hear that you're okay! What a harrowing personal story! Sorry our news networks are doing such a crappy job of INFORMING. Yours was a very interesting post, a unique view into the tragedy of the disaster not heard from mainstream media. Our national news media is an embarrassment. I don't know what's wrong with news organizations today (I work in the entertainment division of NBC, not news). Best wishes, Moonwind!
 
Jubal28 said:
I'm glad you're well and have a comfortable place to stay . . . so many don't.

I know - and I am so heartsick for them all ... and scared for friends we don't know about yet. Even though I am scared for my husband to go back down there by himself next week, I'm also glad as we can hopefully check on at least some of our friends and neighbors. He will be taking as many gallons of water as we can fit into the car so we can at least make sure those that stayed in our area will have some fresh water for a few days. But until he gets back up here, or at least gets to where there is phone service, I will probably not rest! I just hope he finds our house still standing, even if it is a bit damp on the bottom floor. And I hope he finds some of our neighbors who may have stayed who live in single story homes using our house if it is still standing. Being a two-story they may have a dry place to rest ... as long as the trees didn't take out the roof. I'd love to know that, if it is still there, our home offered refuge to some of our friends that may have been stranded.
 
NBCshooter said:
Hey, Moonwind! Wonderful to hear that you're okay! What a harrowing personal story! Sorry our news networks are doing such a crappy job of INFORMING. Yours was a very interesting post, a unique view into the tragedy of the disaster not heard from mainstream media. Our national news media is an embarrassment. I don't know what's wrong with news organizations today (I work in the entertainment division of NBC, not news). Best wishes, Moonwind!

Thanks, Shooter! And its not your fault that the news is upside down and inside out, even if you worked for the news division. Somewhere along the way, news became entertainment rather than information and maybe, if enough people complain about what has been done by ALL the news media during this crisis, maybe some changes can be made to get news back to being news rather than Geraldo in front of the Superdome.
 
Unfortunately, news divisions are under enormous financial pressure. Local news operations are even worse off. Unfortunately, their very survival is based on ratings--that's just the way commercial broadcasting works. All Los Angeles-area local news stations have cut back on staff and crews in recent years due to budget cuts. What America needs is a non-profit 24-hour news network, similar to the way C-SPAN works. It's the only way the news can exist without the pressures of a commercial, profit-making mandate. Also, whatever agency regulates the cable industry should ban FoxNews for disguising 24-hour commentary as "news."
 
My friend lives just a few blocks from the casinos. He is waiting a few weeks before going back. He is Air Force and the base commander gave orders for the troops to evacuate at least 150 miles. He went to Georgia. Thank God. I've been in contact with him almost daily since he left his home, trying to keep his spirits up. But I dont quite know what to say to someone who has lost everything they owned that could possibly make that pain easier to bear. Just that I'm here for him.

well, goodnight all.
 
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