HTML5 video

znowboarding

znowboarding

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Hello DVXuser members.

I have attempted to create something of a comparison of the available html 5 <video> tag formats.

http://zisforzephyr.com/video_cache/html5video/



Check it out, i'll be uploading higher quality vp8 and ogg formats when I find a reliable converter.

If anyone knows a good and free option ( I used Miro2.1video encoder ) please let me know.
 
I'll be glad when all browsers can agree on a standard codec so that we can actually use HTML5 to put video into web pages.

I'm personally rooting for h.264/aac in .mp4 containers because it's implmented in many consumer devices alerady, and those same deliverables can be used on websites, meaning less deliverables to create.

VP8 is such a new standard. The only available encoders are Sorenson Squeeze and the official one from On 2 before Google bought them out as far as I know.

Guys on Doom9 forums are talking about implementing vp8 into ffmpeg. It won't be too long before you can make them with free software.
 
Deminstate:

I think you make some good points about h.264, and I think at the moment it is the most reliable and quality solution. However I do feel wary about the potential for future patient issues with the MPEGLA. Not that I will personally have to deal with them but the potential is there to reach a point where software for encoding becomes outrageously expensive.

Diversity is good in this field, I'm all for competition if it makes things better. So I wish VP8 the best.

For now i'm sticking with h.264 for deliverables though.

If Google can surpass the de-facto standard ( see android vs iphone, or chrome vs ie/firefox/safari gmail vs hotmail....)

Cheers to the Future.
 
Seems JWPlayer's LongTailVideo has released a beta HTML5 player that falls back to Flash when necessary.

We're working on implementing this at work for our videos, though it lacks some of the Flash version's more interactive features. Unlike the website "Video For Everybody", which forces you to create both a Theora and H264 version (for FF and Opera HTML5 playbacl), instead of falling back to Flash in the absence of Theora, JWPlayer actually will fall back to Flash, allowing you to utilize one format.

H264 is used by both Flash and HTML5, and it's also the most supported format as mentioned already, so this would seem to be the optimal choice for now, if you must go HTML5. In my opinion, most HTML5 implementations are still a bit immature (as is the spec itself), but from a coding standpoint, and computational standpoint, HTML5 is definitely the way to go.
 
Us video professionals really like h.264 because we alerady make these files and know how great they look, but some of the more techy people who actually push these standards are trying to go for more open source codecs because they are concerned that MPEG-LA will start charging fees to everybody using h.264 online sometime in the future.

If that happens, then the entire internet will move to another video standard, free from video patents. All it takes is a company like Youtube to drop support for h.264 due to cost, and everybody will follow suit.

I really believe that H.264 is the best course of action for today. I hope that HTML5 video's standard requires support for h.264 and other video codecs are optional. If licensing fees change, then the standard will get changed again.
 
i am trying to get an HTML5 video site up and running.

with the video tag and js it is not that complicated and you can do alot. but based on testing so far, playback is the biggest problem in comparison to flash playback. i think its a buffering issue.
 
JWinter said:
i am trying to get an HTML5 video site up and running.

with the video tag and js it is not that complicated and you can do alot. but based on testing so far, playback is the biggest problem in comparison to flash playback. i think its a buffering issue.
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Take a look at this video player:

http://jilion.com/sublime/video

It's not out yet, but it looks like the most feature complete video player out there.

Also, to stream an h.264 the MOOV atom has to be at the beginning. Older video compressors don't do this. There are utilities that will make a .mp4 streamable Search for them in google.

If your site doesn't have the bandwith, then streaming a file will be difficult.

Good luck. HTML5 is still in its infancy.
 
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