How to get the MOST out of 1-chips?

Dirty_Ass

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Suppose, for instance, I'm stuck using an extremely low-end consumer 1-ccd camcorder that shoots 30p. Is there any way I can get SOME use out of this camera? Since I'm shooting 30p(with no synch sound, presumably), what percentage would I slow that down to in order to display 24fps? Also, what shutter settings do you guys think would result in more filmic motion? And finally, since the color detail is obviously going to be garbage on a single ccd camera, what can I do to preserve and enhance color in post? Thanks
 
Slowing down your footage just to get 24 frames per second isn't really what you want to be doing. In doing this, you're going to slow down your audio as well. It won't behave like film will... it'll just feel like slowed down footage because slowing down footage will do frame blending and interlacing.

Before I had my dvx, I would just increase the shutter a bit and mess around with the autowhite balance settings (I had a sony handycam).

"Film look" means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. It really depends on your tastes. I would recommend you just play around with the settings until you see something that makes you think "hey, I like this look"

Chances are if it looks good to you, you're on the right track.

Good luck!
 
Hi Nik,

I would suggest you do following things.

Spend some money on sound, I heard they say sound is around 70% of viewing experience.
Spend some money to on lighting, you really need to light subject well.
Spend some money on 35 adaptor, this way you can get short depth of field.

Your camera is the least you need to worry.

Regards
Leigh
 
I agree with the sound and lighting being very important, but there's no way I'd recommend a 35mm adapter in lieu of a camera upgrade. I doubt it would even work correctly on what he's describing as an "an extremely low-end consumer 1-ccd camcorder"
 
oh there's certainly no right or wrong... and you post got me wondering what exactly that might look like -- putting a 35mm adapter on a 1-chipper. Assuming you could fine-tune to set your back focus and had manual control over your iris it just might create some insanely unique look.

The rig itself would look unique... that's for sure.

As an addition to the original question -- if you have access to the Magic Bullet tools you could try applying the filmlook tools to that. Not just the cc tools but the 24p motion effects plugin.
 
I like Magic Bullet too, but the speed of Magic Bullet is killing me. To render some footage, it will take days, not minutes like adobe premiere pro for export a movie clip. I don't use Magic Bullet anymore.
 
dj200423 said:
You should consider getting some more RAM if MB is really slow. I don't consider it THAT slow.

May I ask how long takes you to render an hour minidv avi file in your magic bullet? What is your specification?

TIA

Regards
Leigh
 
Here's a piece of advice:

Try using sun light but make sure not to clip to much (use your zebra stipes). Sunlight looks far better than anything else. Then, when you get ready to edit, go ahead and de-saturate your image entirly (black and white) and up your contrast (try to use a color corection program with a histogram so you can get the most out of your values). Go ahead an try to convert to 24p as well. I did the following on a film I shot for a summer camp which was supposed to be a "noir" parody and I was shocked how much many of the scenes looked like a 40s noir visually on a regular TV (or even in LCD projection).
 
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