How Steven Spielberg relates tension.

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I just could not stand it any longer.

See, it's not that homeboy has a differing of opinion; it's the manner in which he expresses it. Futhermore, running any smack towards a fellow moderator of mine is going to come right back at ya'

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Take 2 weeks kid.

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When I heard 'Bergman, Godard, Antonioni and Bela Tarr' (Bela Tarr?) I knew we were dealing with another monster. Now even I can appreciate the works of the more avante garde cinema or the European cinema outside of the mainstream but this guy just doesnt have any taste whatsoever.

Blah blah blah... Yeah, I know, we all have opinions, but that doesnt make it right.

Discounting anything Taratino or Spielberg has done is an insult to Cinema.

Films like:

Munich
Saving Private Ryan (If not for redefining how the war film is shot if nothing else)
Schindler's List
Empire of the Sun
The Color Purple
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Close Encounters of the Third Kind

Or

Jaws

Just cannot be ignored.

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Okay; really it was his reply to Issac that bothered me. (Been getting alot of this lately)
 
CineCell said:
It's these type of quotes that really show off the wannabes and those with no feature experience. Do you guys have any clue how much a Cinematographer contributes to a film? You think a director makes a movie what it is? You think a director is the one that frames all the shots? Did you know that it has more to do with the DP and the operator (sometimes the same person) in the end? Those kinds of statements are very depressing to see. It just shows how stupid most people truly are.

Kaminski is one of the top five DP's on earth and he has quite a bit to do with how those films turn out in the end.

These boards need some kind of screening process before people should be allowed to post on them.

Whoopsee!
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Whopsee, indeed. You're not just wrong, you're very wrong. First of all, I wrote that "merely" was the wrong word (Kaminski is honestly a personal hero of mine) since Kaminski is brilliant and does his job amazingly well. Spielberg, however, is unique in that he designs every shot himself. I've read interviews in American Cinematographer, watched making-of featurettes, and talked with professional DPs about this. Certainly Kaminski has some say over framing (the zoom in Munich was his idea), but Spielberg is unique in that he alone frames each shot, which means that what is said through camerawork (the topic of this thread) is said by HIM.

The reason this matters is because Spielberg is one of the few directors whose camera moves can entirely be attributed to him. I'd give Pope and Gaeta much of the credit for The Matrix's style, and Deschanel credit for almost everything I liked about Passion of the Christ. The time-shifting two strip technicolor to three-strip in the Aviator can be attributed to Richardson more easily than to Scorsese, although I don't doubt he was deeply involved in designing it. The 1970s look of Munich I'd attribute primarily to Spielberg, though. Sure, Kaminski was responsible for making it work, but it was Spielberg's idea.

As for the personal attacks, whatever. If the best thing you've accomplished is putting down the accomplishments of others, then I'm hardly impressed. If you're such a successful filmmaker, then why are you here if you think it's a waste of time? Why should you ban my comments when all yours are are personal attacks and empty totally incorrect arguments? Obviously you don't like it here. Good. Leave.
 
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Heck, I would ban him just for his first post in this thread.

I thought it was widely known that DVXuser is an unofficial Spielberg fan club? :cheesy:
 
CineCell said:
Do you guys have any clue how much a Cinematographer contributes to a film? You think a director makes a movie what it is? You think a director is the one that frames all the shots? Did you know that it has more to do with the DP and the operator (sometimes the same person) in the end? Those kinds of statements are very depressing to see. It just shows how stupid most people truly are.

Kaminski is one of the top five DP's on earth and he has quite a bit to do with how those films turn out in the end.
Whoopsee!
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In a text book, with a flow chart, you'll probably find a DP doing a specific job. If the director says "I want this shot, exactly like this, with this lens, right here exposed at... etc etc". The DP will either have to come to some sort of agreement/understanding with the director or decide he wants to take a new project.

The DP is at the directors disposal to help tell the story. If spielberg wants to comp all of his shots, there isn't a whole lot Kaminski can do about it.

I think you're being a little too legalistic in your interpretation of creative responsibilities.
 
Cinecell is gone.

Cinecell on the barbie

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Givemefood

I'd suggest rethinking your approach to any discussions in this forum. Either try and play nice or go back to Rotten Tomatoes.

One thing we offer here is a community where we strive to get along, no matter our differences nor our opinions. You've done nothing any different than the last 2 dudes who just got axed but get lucky.

If you want to stay and be mellow yellow then this thread will go away and we will all forget about it. If not ?

Just let me know (Someone will)

Tks !
 
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