Hot hot was it?

Besides interviews, everything I film these days is 99% 60p slowed-down because it's easier and I'm lazier.

I also - like everyone else - justify it for creative reasons. And although that is true at times, I know deep inside that it's too difficult for me to run-and-gun 24p for everything and make something better than what I can from with the freedom I have with extending slow-motion.
 
There's an optimal speed for every shot in the edit. I review most of my footage and can generally tell right away if something is the right speed, if it should be sped up to real time, or if it should have been shot in slow motion.

I shoot a lot of still lifes in slow motion to smooth out camera movement. The painting isn't moving (or the bouquet or whatever). Could look the same in 24fps if I were smooth enough. But Christie's was doing that before I started shooting for them: 24 fps for tripod coverage of artworks and 60 fps on slider or gimbal.

Some things look bad in slow motion, so I always shoot them in 24fps with 180-degree shutter. Or if that particular edit/shot calls for it. It's not like it's impossible to run and gun with realtime footage. If I think that's preferable, I'll do it
 
After irrigating the wound of my bruised ego and change of bandages, I looked over my 120 FPS wedding footage from Thursday, and found there was absolutely no problem in speeding it up to 60 FPS, (on a 24fps timeline). It played very nicely in the less extreme slow motion. About the only negative I could find was I suppose data rate, and tossing 1/2 of the video frames but it was still buttery smooth and looked great.
 
NorBro said:
dare you to film your next wedding only in 24p :engel017:
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I used to shoot all my weddings in exclusively 24p and with manual focus. I always delivered a saleable product that pleased our customers. It's not like I was drowning without slow motion. It's merely a useful enhancement
 
Tom Roper said:
After irrigating the wound of my bruised ego and change of bandages, I looked over my 120 FPS wedding footage from Thursday, and found there was absolutely no problem in speeding it up to 60 FPS, (on a 24fps timeline). It played very nicely in the less extreme slow motion. About the only negative I could find was I suppose data rate, and tossing 1/2 of the video frames but it was still buttery smooth and looked great.
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Ego bruising is a side effect of posting footage to dvxuser. I wish I had the options of 48, 72, and 96 fps. I'd gladly choose a multiple of 24 for easier switching to realtime. The only thing I don't like about 60 fps is that it isn't divisible by 24. Yes, the shutter speed is also off. But depending on if.ypu expect to use slow motion but are protecting for real time, or if you expect to use real time but are protecting for slow motion, you could always shoot slow motion with a 360 degree shutter so the motion blur is closer to 180 degrees for real time.
 
ahh...the hot wedding days. I never enjoy. Brides are notorious for choosing june, july and august which are almost always scorching hot here. They seem to never figure this out.
I've never had a main camera fail but I don't use mirrorless/DSLR cameras in those instances. One wedding was so hot the DJ system kept failing. I bought an arm and a "flag" for the purpose of having an adjustable sun shade but have never used it. I generally use eng type camcorders (HMC150, UX180, AC90a etc) for outdoor ceremonies and they seem to make it.
Hope you are able to piece it together into a usable end product.
 
firehawk said:
ahh...the hot wedding days. I never enjoy. Brides are notorious for choosing june, july and august which are almost always scorching hot here. They seem to never figure this out.
I've never had a main camera fail but I don't use mirrorless/DSLR cameras in those instances. One wedding was so hot the DJ system kept failing. I bought an arm and a "flag" for the purpose of having an adjustable sun shade but have never used it. I generally use eng type camcorders (HMC150, UX180, AC90a etc) for outdoor ceremonies and they seem to make it.
Hope you are able to piece it together into a usable end product.
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All the cams did (barely) make it to the end of the ceremony except the safetyshot angle to the rear. BTW, I do have an AC90a, haven't used it in years, never felt a lot of love for the image but it solves some problems. Putting it on the charger now, thinking about how it could fit into my upcoming wedding shoot.
 
ahalpert said:
Ego bruising is a side effect of posting footage to dvxuser. I wish I had the options of 48, 72, and 96 fps. I'd gladly choose a multiple of 24 for easier switching to realtime. The only thing I don't like about 60 fps is that it isn't divisible by 24. Yes, the shutter speed is also off. But depending on if.ypu expect to use slow motion but are protecting for real time, or if you expect to use real time but are protecting for slow motion, you could always shoot slow motion with a 360 degree shutter so the motion blur is closer to 180 degrees for real time.
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I agree. 60p to 24p (played in realtime speed) never looked quite right, 360 degree shutter is something I normally do with HFR, speeding up 120 FPS to 60FPS in post was something I had not tried but it looked great for slow motion on a 24p timeline. Where I have to be careful when shooting is to watch out for rolling bands on dimmers and LED lights. We were just talking about that, and I spotted a great example of it on my last wedding shoot that I noticed before filming and changed frame rates to get rid of it, but it was happening on some multiple of 60, the slow rate of 24 it went away.
 
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