Horror film festival and production values

Gillvane

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I attended a local horror film festival the other day. The films ran the gamut in production values as far as both sets, wardrobe etc. and camera and lighting. A couple were very "videoy" and not cinematically lit. There was light and you could see the actors but no style to the lighting at all. They seemed to be shot on some sort of small censor video camera.

Most were in the middle. The lighting was generally not awesome but a little bit more cinematic and they appeared to be shot on a camera that made them look less videoy, probably a DSLR of some sort. A couple were high end. The lighting was excellent, the picture looked very high quality, maybe a DSLR shot by someone that really knew how to get everything out of it and all the right lighting, but probably something nicer, maybe a Red something like that.

The rest of the production values seemed to be pretty much in line with the image quality. Poor image quality videoy looking short films had no wardrobe design, no set design, and the sound was poor, no J cuts in sound, noticeable buzzes and hums that came on and off as you cut between actors, etc. The middle films had some props, wardrobe but not much, some more FX, the sound was a bit better. The top end productions had everything, great sound, nice locations/sets, and more camera moves, dollys, jibs, etc.

What struck me was that the entertainment value, at least to me, was totally unrelated to the production value. The most entertaining films were in teh middle. But, if they had been high end or lower end productions, they would have been just as entertaining. The ones that were bad were bad regardless of production value. It was a horror film festival so some of them were bad in a good way, as in delightfully schlocky, but some were just bad.

I will say the most "videoy" productions were a bit distracting. After watching a few more or less "cinematic" productions it was just kind of Bang! in your face, look at this video look on the big screen! But that wore off quickly and then I enjoyed it (or not) like the rest.

Also some of the high end productions were a bit jarring. It was like, wow, look at this really high end location, horses, dolly shots, beautiful lighting, period clothing, actually quite decent acting, for this mildly entertaining at best crappy story. It just felt kind of pretentious. I felt like they would have actually been more entertaining if they had way less production value and had not tried to look just like Hollywood. It would have at least given them some character. For some of the middle of the road production value pieces the poor fx, lack of wardrobe, passable or bad but not annoyingly bad acting actually gave them some charm and was part of what made them entertaining.

So maybe this pertains more to the horror genre but I was just really struck by the way that the quality of production seemed to have very little impact on which films I found entertaining. The middle of the spectrum productions had decent angles (most of the time not always) and there were no unintentional jump cuts or anything, but it wasn't Stanley Kubrick style cinema and they weren't even trying for anything like that. It was mostly wide, close, pan, get the actors on teh screen and tell the story and it just totally worked when the actors were having fun and the story was engaging.
 
I attend film festivals regularly with all genre short and feature films, I agree, and find that in the end its the story that matters most and is always king. I can always spot those weird edits, bad lighting or mediocre camera work but I think if the story is good and is being told well that the general audience won't notice the kind of stuff I/we do.

As you say, there are those films with great lighting, great art direction and set design, but then the story is crap and it will be to the audience too. Doesn't matter it was shot with RED or 1/3" CCD. You can't make up for a bad story with smoke and mirrors.
 
I have definitely fallen into that trap...rushing the script and spending a ton of time on trying to make it look nice. Its very easy to do. As everyone says, script/story comes first. If that aspect of the film blows nothing else can save it. The reverse is not necessarily true (although acting/sound/visuals CAN be so bad as to detract from something well written, from my many festival viewings it is usually the opposite, or production values/overall badness are right in line with each other).

Has nothing to do with genre either--this problem spans all types of films. I had a film in an animation fest a long time ago. Most films had very nice visuals, much nicer than mine, but the stories just werent there. Its like people just wanted to animate something and story was an afterthought.
 
I have definitely fallen into that trap...rushing the script and spending a ton of time on trying to make it look nice. Its very easy to do. As everyone says, script/story comes first. If that aspect of the film blows nothing else can save it. The reverse is not necessarily true (although acting/sound/visuals CAN be so bad as to detract from something well written, from my many festival viewings it is usually the opposite, or production values/overall badness are right in line with each other).

Has nothing to do with genre either--this problem spans all types of films. I had a film in an animation fest a long time ago. Most films had very nice visuals, much nicer than mine, but the stories just werent there. Its like people just wanted to animate something and story was an afterthought.


The winner of the audience choice award was actually claymation. I tought it was really entertaining.

 
Wanna know something? The short I mentioned above was actually claymation! It actually went a little "viral" (this was 2002 era "viral" so. . .), getting passed around to people I'd never met by people who met people who met people who I met. I think the effort/work that claymation takes comes across more obviously than it does in other forms (live action, drawn 2D/3D animation) for some reason, and that charms folks in a way those other formats don't. Just something about the stop motion thing. Unless it's so slick that it looks like CGI (I couldn't believe Coraline was actually stop motion when I read that).
 
So remember that a really good screenwriter is worth his weight in gold.

(The fact that I AM a really good screenwriter has nothing to do with this post.)

:-D
 
Indeed. Although something has to be said for having a good director who doesn't ruin the screenwriter's work!

That's true too. But first get a great script. Then get a great director.

In fact, having a great script will pave the way and make it a lot easier to secure a great director, great crew, and a great cast.
 
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