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reel

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I dont know whether this is the place to ask or not but im sure there are people here who can give me an answer ..well my question is what fps do they use to shoot movies with? and when they edit it do they slow it down to maybe like say by 2-3 frames to give that extra feel?
If this was asked before sorry..i just didnt know how to search for it with an appropriatte "search word".
thanks in advaced
-reel
 
24fps is standard in the Hollywood standard... to slow footage down, they shoot a higher fps and then playback at 24.
 
Thx..but shooting with a 30fps and playing back at 24fps wont that make the clip really jerky?? what i mean is not to play it back in slomo but if u see ur home video and compare it to the movies, u can feel the differences between the speed. This is completely leaving out the color adjustments etc and just the speed[i dont know what other way to put it] of those hollywood movies.
 
What bigbossbmb is saying is right... they have film cameras that are design just to shoot slowmo... or high speed...

In other words you can shoot from 1 to even a 1000 frames...
 
reel said:
Thx..but shooting with a 30fps and playing back at 24fps wont that make the clip really jerky??
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No... you're shooting 30 pictures per second. This means that you have 30 increments of movement per second. 24 fps is the "norm", closest to what we call normal. Some films shoot at 29.97 fps, but that's a different story.

Playing back 30 fps footage at 24 fps just means you're keeping the frames on for a shorter amount of time than they were shot at. If you shoot 30 fps and play back at 30 fps, it's going to be real time. 24 fps is just the "norm" again.

30 fps played back at 24 fps = distributing 30 frames over the time interval of one second. This is approx. .033 seconds per frame.

Resulting in the slow-mo effect.
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When I was younger I used to think people in the 1920's moved alot faster than we do now. What it really is is the handcranked cameras that are sometimes undercranked because the cinematographer / filmer didn't keep a steady pace.

Shooting something like 12 frames per second played back at 24 is going to speed up your footage. Only when you hit like 4 frames per second do you get really jerky footage.

12 fps played back at 24 fps = 0.05 seconds per frame (because it's half of 24)

reel said:
and when they edit it do they slow it down to maybe like say by 2-3 frames to give that extra feel
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The extra feel is the lighting, the audio, the editing, the film stock.

Something like LOTR is shot on 35mm film stock, then uploaded to Macs in a 2k resolution, and then edited, exported back out to film, and shown in theatres.

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This should go in the cinematography forum, not "After Effects"
 
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It feels like it's slow motion because in real life, you don't see things frame by frame. When you watch a home video or the news, it looks like your seeing it through a window because it's actually at 30 progressive frames or 60 interlaced frames, very close to the human eye.A movie, like everyone else said, is shot at 24 frames per second or atleast played back at 24fps. Lighting will also give it a more proffesional and charming look.

By the way, why the hell did you ask that question in the After Effects forum? And there's PLENTY of information about frame rates and other stuff. Sorry for being so blunt but I want to slap you.:angry:
 
P.S.T. said:
By the way, why the hell did you ask that question in the After Effects forum?
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My guess, 100% serious, is that he/she thought it was the "Effects" that you put in "After" you've shot the movie. Not even kidding. After Effects and Special Effects sound pretty much the same if you're a noob. :2vrolijk_08:
 
Thx guys well i was never sure yet always curious..i guess everything counts not only effects used, lighting etc, angles etc when it comes to achieving a movie type a feel...btw im not new to AE at all but yes im really new to the whole cinematography, maybe i should go read up on that more but thanks for the help!
Well to P.S.T haha my answer to ur question is, I dont usually browse around much and like i said i didnt know what "word" to put up for a search, didnt even know it would come under frames topic it was kinda a guess. Anyways you're as old as my niece so don't try to internet slap me please lol maybe u can slap me if we meet in real life if u have the balls okay!! thanks for ur say as well tho..i mean it lolz!!

[I'll save all this specially zachs coz i have a feeling the admin gonna delete this soon]
 
-zach- said:
The extra feel is the lighting, the audio, the editing, the film stock.

Something like LOTR is shot on 35mm film stock, then uploaded to Macs in a 2k resolution, and then edited, exported back out to film, and shown in theatres.
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I'm pretty sure that LOTR was scanned in 4K. I think they said this on the first extended DVD's special features. I know that they did the offline edit in Avid, and it was graded in Collossus 5D (which became Discreet lustre I think). I'm pretty sure that it was graded and finished in 4K though.

-Stephen
 
-zach- said:
Playing back 30 fps footage at 24 fps just means you're keeping the frames on for a shorter amount of time than they were shot at.
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Just the opposite. Shooting at 30fps each frame is captured in 1/30 of a second. Playing them back at 24fps they take 1/24 of a second which is a longer period of time.

-zach- said:
30 fps played back at 24 fps = distributing 30 frames over the time interval of one second. This is approx. .033 seconds per frame.

Resulting in the slow-mo effect.
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This is not how it works. If you shoot 30 frames in 1 second and play that back at 24fps, each 30 frames of footage shot will now take approx 1.2 seconds to play back.
Hence the resulting slo-mo.
 
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