Hiphop is dead?

Found that by googleing arround

I said a hip hop a hippie to the hippie
to the hip hip hop, you dont stop
a rockin to the bang bang boogy say upchuck the boogy,
to the rhythm of the boogity beat.

now what you hear is not a test--i'm rappin to the beat
and me, the groove, and my friends are gonna try to move your feet
see i am wonder mike and i like to say hello
to the black, to the white, the red, and the brown, the purple and yellow
but first i gotta bang bang the boogie to the boogie
say up jump the boogie to the bang bang boogie
let's rock, you dont stop
rock the riddle that will make your body rock
well so far youve heard my voice but i brought two friends along
and next on the mike is my man hank
come on, hank, sing that song
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http://www.lyrics007.com/Gang%20Sugarhill%20Lyrics/Rapper's%20Delight%20Lyrics.html

Brings back some sweet memories of 1979....

... oh boy, am I getting old..

Sounds like "good clean fun" compared to what is on the radio nowdays.

Frank
 
have you ever been over a friends house to eat and the food just aint no good
i mean the macaronis soggy the peas all mushed and the chicken tastes like wood
so you try to play it off like you think you can by saying that youre full
and your friend says momma hes just bein polite he aint finished or all that full
 
if anyone is seriously interested in learning more about hip hop, one place you should definitely go is the documentary "Scratch". It's a fabulous film by one of my favorite filmmakers, Doug Pray, and it explores the origins and philosophies behind hip hop DJ's and turntablists.

Although I've seen it many times, interesting that this thread should pop up the night after i JUST revisited it!

If you like that film, or hip hop isn't interesting to you, check out Doug Pray's first film, "HYPE!" about the Seattle grunge movement. It's one of my favorites films of all time. :)
 
I always learn a few things around here. Glad I brought this up.

I checked out zulunation.com. I recognize about 80% of the funk bands.
Used to love the clavinet. Also saw the Jackson 5 in there. I was a kid when Ben came out. That M.Jackson had amazing talent from the get go I have to admit.

//I'll check those out Cheesesailor if I can find them.
// Located 'Scratch' at Blockbuster. I shall check it out.
 
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Scratch is pretty cool but if you want to see the original hip-hop movie of all time check out WILDSTYLE not a doc but it stars all the true early pioneers (not the sugarhill gang :) )
. Also check out Style Wars the O.G. doc about grafitti and its pioneers.

Artisits such as the Last Poets and Gil Scott Heron were "rapping" or spoken word over funky beats long before Rappers Delight and the Sugarhill Gang.
 
I've located WildStyle as well. I'll be stepping out in a bit and picking those up.
Thanks for the tips.
 
I wonder if in say a few hundred years from now if Hip Hop/Rap would be considered as classical music (much like how we consider Mozart as classical)?

What weird time that would be..
 
Yeah, Wild Style was great.

By the way, Rap is not an invention of the late 70s.
I got some - belive it or not - Glen Miller recordings of the mid 40s wher Glen and Tex Beneke rapping along.

Frank
 
hip hop aint' dead or dying it lives in the south. Point........
Jay-z
Eminem
Common
Kanye West
Oatkast

Come on man......

Biggie has the biggiest selling album (but Mainly because He died in the era where when you died you certain to sell 4 million more.

Tupac is the biggest selling rapper, (sold way more records as a dead artist though.

Let's see Tupac sold 45 million worlwide, eminem is at what? 44 million (and he ain't even dead.

Biggie went diamond (10 million) life after death.
Outkast went diamond (Speakerboxxxx/love below) they still alive.


What's has happen is the south has been running hip hop for a while and Now hip hop is in the for front of music so now you can hear a lot of other rappers who if it wasn't in the fore front you wouldn't usually hear.

I know Shawty-Low's, and bow wow's make you think that hip hop is dead but just for the fact you hearing a lot of wack none selling artist should let you know that hip hop is ever alive. When these label's start going belly up then come at me with that hip hop is dead stuff.

Keep it real Interscope/Aftermathe/Shady/G-unit Records alone is putting money in label heads pocket.


Because your a hear a Shawty-low album, compared to a Nas album. Duo Nas album gonna be more lryical but let's see who really did what. Nas album (hip hop is Dead) is at 767,000 he's with a big label so that's like what 40 cent a copy. Shawty low sell way lesser like 100,000 if he's even there yet but he's with an independent label (Asylum Records) they say it's like 7 dollars a copy but we know it's around more like $2-3 a copy so that put Shawt-low album in a better spot than Nas's album.


So keep it real, Hip Hop is not dead or dying it lives in the south. They keep saying because of lack of sells please....................


T.I. (Ti vs TIP) 1.6 million
Ludacris (Release Therapy) 1.5 million
Young Jeezy (Thug Motivation 102) 1.4 million
Lil Wayne (Carter 2) 967,000
Chamillionaire (Ultimate Victory) 523,923

Them pretty good sales right there.

Then labels putting out like 20 different Souljah boy's and Shawty-lo's with less money toward promotion. So at 150,000 copies an artist that's alot of Money.

Only people who saying Hip Hop Is Dead is misinformed people.
 
Nas said hip hop is dead because he's barely going platinum.

That don't mean hip hop is dead that means Nas need to quit?
 
Debonaire is missing the point. It's not that these artist are unable to make huge sums of money, the argument is that the music they're making is no longer "hip hop"

most of whats out there has more in common with disco, except without the talented production teams and vocalists. thats not to say that there's no good rap coming out, it's just that Hip hop as a world wide mainstream movement is long gone and has evolved into something else.

btw:
Jay-Z - New York
Eminem - Detroit
Common and Kanye - Chicago
 
I finished watching Scratch. I didn't realize it went back to the mid-late 70's.
I don't know how some of those guys can keep the beats steady while jumping the needle around like that but they can.

Around 1977 here, disco (ugh) was beginning then and rap getting widespread popularity later, in my memory, during the late 80's.
Then the b-boy thing showed up for awhile into the 90's.

I remember doing my last rock gig newyears eve 1991. Within a few months all of the bars had gone country. Although the youth continued listening to rap.
Still do.

My original post had a question mark at the end because I was wondering if it was dying. There's been some good explanations about that here.

I'll watch WildStyles later tonight.

//Ooops. That was 1991, not 1999. I quite gigging completely in '99.
 
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