Help please with final rendered product!

videomojo

videomojo

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I just completed a 9-minute plus project for my church that I shot with my new Sony HVR Z1U, shot in widescreen. Project looked great while editing, but rendered it and was a little disappointed. I rendered twice, following Sony's suggestion. Did it once doing video and audio separately as mpeg-2 and wav files, then rendered again as an avi file. Both renderings looked about the same. (using Vegas 7C)

Does anyone have any ideas how to make these situations better?

1. Video looked a little soft, more film-like than it looked on my monitors. Not necessarily a bad thing, but definitely different. Better way to render and get best quality?

2. The scrolling text that I keyed over video was blurry and jumpy as it went by....not smooth.

3. I took a jpeg still image of my last video shot, and added it to the end of the video shot to extend it with graphics over it. The jpeg was widescreen on my monitors, but when I rendered it and played it back, the shot was wide until it went to the jpeg, when it shrunk back to 4:3. Made the end look very funky.

Thanks for the help!
 
Re number 3 - instead of adding a jpeg to the end of your shot, add a velocity envelope and insert an envelope point at the end of your clip to set velocity to zero. This will hold that last frame directly from your clip. You will find lots of interesting uses for velocity envelopes.

videomojo said:
I just completed a 9-minute plus project for my church that I shot with my new Sony HVR Z1U, shot in widescreen. Project looked great while editing, but rendered it and was a little disappointed. I rendered twice, following Sony's suggestion. Did it once doing video and audio separately as mpeg-2 and wav files, then rendered again as an avi file. Both renderings looked about the same. (using Vegas 7C)

Does anyone have any ideas how to make these situations better?

3. I took a jpeg still image of my last video shot, and added it to the end of the video shot to extend it with graphics over it. The jpeg was widescreen on my monitors, but when I rendered it and played it back, the shot was wide until it went to the jpeg, when it shrunk back to 4:3. Made the end look very funky.

Thanks for the help!
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my render settings on the mpeg-2 were progressive, and when I rendered in avi it was interlaced. I saw no real difference in the renders. When I've rendered projects before in the default settings (avi) the stills and the video had a crisper look.
 
Well, I need more info than that. Frame size? Codec?

Rendering it as progressive will always soften the iimage.
 
David, following the Sony tech's advice, my rendering settings were:

1. main concept mpeg-2, dvd arch widescreen videostream, best rendering quality, 720x480, 29.97 frame rate, progressive only. Did audio as miscrosoft wav file.


2. avi video for windows, NTSC DV, best renedering quality, lower field first.

thanks,
Joe
 
You probably don't want to render as progressive if you're making a 29.97 DVD. You'll throw away resolution needlessly.

It's always going to look a bit softer when you take HD content and reduce it to SD sizes.
 
the second render I did was interlaced as an avi file, I think, and I saw no difference...

If this were your project and thousands of people are going to be watching it on a large screen, what would be all your settings for the best render...and is there anything I can do in dvd architect to make it better there?

Please keep it simple for me, as I do not fully understand all the technical aspects of Vegas yet.

the most annoying thing while watching it is the jumpy text scrolling by over the video...if I can't get it to stop I'll have to re-do the text as single screens.

thanks David!
 
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It would help to know what it looks like (screen shot), what the original looked like (screen shot), and what you'd like the final result to look like.

The DVD Architect templates under MPEG-2 are optimized at default. Best not to change them. Use the DV template and don't change the field order to progressive.
 
thanks for all the help...used the velocity envelope and that worked great...also rendered again using mpeg-2, interlaced, 8 million constant bit rate, and it looks much better.

thanks everyone!
 
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