HELP lost timeline twice

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dtzfilms

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twice I've compiled a timeline, and twice I've lost it and it's nowhere to be found on my laptop or my external drive.
I'm guessing the work flow is open an event and create a new project within the event. I didn't do that. I just jumped straight in and started compiling.
Now I can't find any of these projects even though I recall naming one of them. Anyone have a clue how to recover?
What the bloody hell is going on with this??? I mean after eventually approaching some degree of confidence in FCP7 I feel like an idiot all over again!
 
Nobody?? Wow. This is a pathetic sub forum. I'm going back to the AF100 forum where help is guaranteed.
 
You posted on the night of a holiday, and checked back bright and early so, not a lot of folks around, give some time, have some patience. Some of us have a life and were with family and friends all weekend.

You can't create a "project" inside of an "event", they are different entities. So I've no clue about what "...create a new project withing an event" means. That's impossible to do.

Events and projects don't normally just vanish. So when you say you compiled a Timeline, what sort of Timeline? Did you work with a clipTimeline, a Compound Clip timeline, or a Project timeline?
How is your Event Library set up to display (Display controls in the action menu below it)? Be sure to have them listed by hard drive to make things easier.
If you created a Project, what drive did you specify when you created it, and is it in your Project Library at all?
 
Ah, an American holiday! I always forget about those even though I'm here in America. Even so at the time of the rant-post, (almost 24 hours after my initial post) there were 58 views and no help. Anyway, cheers mate. I used Izzy Hyman's videos to give me a running start. One imports media into an event and from the event one creates a project, and one may have multiple projects in or attached to the event. They've just been vanishing, but alas they haven't. I did command J and discovered the project library, which I undoubtedly watched in Izzy's video but utterly forgot about. I guess the frustration of being somewhat proficient in FCP7 and being reduced to crawler-toddler while facing a deadline hasn't done much for my disposition.

The question I have now is: With the project library on the same drive as my program, isn't that the no-no we've all had ingrained in us since FCP6-7? Shouldn't the project library be on the same drive as my scratch disk? Or is that normal? If not, how do I make my external drive the default location for my project library so I don't have to constantly duplicate to the external drive? I'm just hoping this doesn't hurt my computer's editing performance. Only have an MBP i7 laptop.
 
I'm lost on what the OP is stating here. FCPX is pretty darn self explanatory about projects and events. I tend to get the project with the ingested events on the same drive (an external drive). I never work from internal drives. The only way I can see him losing projects is by deleting them off his hard drive. The program saves for you automatically.

It's quite easy. Attach a drive. Ingest footage to that drive as an event. Then start a new project with that event as the material. Thats it. Theres no saving, no save as. Just open projects and edit footage ingested into your events. Projects, events, same external hard drive. Simple. You scratch disk will be on that external hard drive. In fact, forget the term scratch disk. Forget FCP7 and just take the editing aspects with you.

I edit on a MBP 17 I7 16 gigs ram. It flies. With thunderbolt, it flies faster.
 
1st, this is such a basic introductory concept, I'd do the Ripple Training core video course on FCP X for sure.
2nd, I cover media management extensively in my own Media Management In FCP X course at macProVideo.com.

3rd, Projects are not "attached" to Events. A new Timeline (Compound or Project) allows you to assign a "default" Event for it. This only effects when you drag-and-drop to add media directly to a timeline from a Finder window or from a Media Browser pane (photos, music). That determines what Event the media will be copied to inside FCP X. But you can use media from any Event in any Timeline, there's no limitations or rules there.

First thing I sell my students in my classes is, "Take everything you know about other NELs you've used, or about legacy versions of FCP, and throw it out the window."
 
Such a basic concept, yep - I agree which is why I came for help on my first attempt. Forget FCP 7 - indeed, I was looking for easy setup to set scratch disks etc, but forget FCP7. Attach, assign - semantics - different word, same meaning intended. Anyway, I recently became familiar with the concept of project library and events - I realized that my projects seemed to be on the main drive instead of my scratch. Dunno how that happened, and I was just wondering if thats the default behavior - that's all, that maybe that's another thing that's changed!! What I did to circumvent that was duplicate the project to the Scratch disk and work off that. Anyway, thanks, best advice - forget FCP 7, but unfortunately, I cannot, not just yet. I have some favorite crumple pop plugin effects that I use in 7 that won't import to X in 7toX which means for now I'll have to create the effect in 7 make a quicktime movie and import file into X to complete the project.

And good lord, man. I had no idea one could get 16GB RAM on a MBP - just upgraded to 8GB thinking that's the limit on a MBP. That's another new thing about X. What I heard about 7 was that 4GB was all you needed, and extra RAM wouldn't help - dunno how true that is - but apparently that's not the case with X if you've got 16 bloody gigs of ram. Bloody hell, mate!

Anyway, thank you both. I'm going through the courtship period with X and I'm just so slow I hate it. Things I do without thinking, I now flounder. For instance in 7 I can show wire frame and image, resize, recompose - how do I do that in X?
 
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When you create a new Project, you get a window that asks about it's setup. The first thing in that window is which hard drive to store it on. Yeah, Ripple Training's core FCP X training, and my Media Management in FCP X training, and you'll be rocking and rolling. I can assure you that getting up to speed with X is way faster and easier than with legacy FCP versions. Just do the trainings, it'll all come to you quickly.
http://www.rippletraining.com/categ...-products/final-cut-pro-10-core-training.html
http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/finalcutprox204-managing-media

There's no wireframe in X, because we now have much, much better Viewer controls for that sort of work.
http://help.apple.com/finalcutpro/mac/10.0.4/#verfc8a4713

Here's some freebies to help you out, too.
http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/author/Ben-Balser
 
Cheers for the freebies, fella, much appreciated.

EDIT: Flipping hell, mate! I just watched the targeted color correction tutorial!
This X is one powerful little bugger! That was bloody brilliant!
 
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dtzfilms said:
What I heard about 7 was that 4GB was all you needed, and extra RAM wouldn't help
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Exactly. FCP7 is ancient technology that doesn´t even use all your cores or RAM.

On FCPX: definitely find some Lessons. I also used Ripple Training. It seems slow, but it is solid.

About resizing: you don´t need wireframe, because FCPX will render out the image fast enough. There is a setting in preferences for "Best quality" and "better performance". That´s it.
To resize you can either use the Inspector on the right side (hit the "i" icon) or you use the Transform tool in the canvas-window (left bottom of your viewer). There is a transform and a crop button.
 
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