Headphones for DVX100
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MattinSTL
Sound Modulator
Re: Headphones for DVX100
Go with the Sony 7506. Absolutely, positively, 100%.
Normal price at most outlets will be $99.
They are worth every penny. They're the standard in Hollywood. Once you get them you'll notice that anytime you see "making of" stuff that there's a pair or two in the shot. EVERYBODY uses these! There are a couple better choices for WAY more money... but there is NO better choice anywhere near the price.
They are super high quality, sound great, isolate very well, comfortable, and they fold up into a little ball for your camera bag... they use half the space of other headphones even though they fold out to full size. Very clever.
Also it's important to note that they have a lot of output compared to other phones! Most headphones can't get loud enough from the low-powered headphone amps in cameras. The Sonys don't have that problem.
Check 'em out. Everybody loves these for a reason. I honestly gave away two pair of Sennheiser 'phones after I got these because I even think they sound better for everyday music listening!
In case you didn't see my other threads about the 416... I'm not a Sennheiser basher... I love their stuff... but these Sonys were MADE for videographers.
Go with the Sony 7506. Absolutely, positively, 100%.
Normal price at most outlets will be $99.
They are worth every penny. They're the standard in Hollywood. Once you get them you'll notice that anytime you see "making of" stuff that there's a pair or two in the shot. EVERYBODY uses these! There are a couple better choices for WAY more money... but there is NO better choice anywhere near the price.
They are super high quality, sound great, isolate very well, comfortable, and they fold up into a little ball for your camera bag... they use half the space of other headphones even though they fold out to full size. Very clever.
Also it's important to note that they have a lot of output compared to other phones! Most headphones can't get loud enough from the low-powered headphone amps in cameras. The Sonys don't have that problem.
Check 'em out. Everybody loves these for a reason. I honestly gave away two pair of Sennheiser 'phones after I got these because I even think they sound better for everyday music listening!
In case you didn't see my other threads about the 416... I'm not a Sennheiser basher... I love their stuff... but these Sonys were MADE for videographers.
taubkin
Veteran
Re: Headphones for DVX100
I use Sennheiser HD 25's in my school, and while the sound they make is wonderful, they don't isolate. That's terrible for the field, and I wouldn't mind compromising in quality as long as I could hear only what's being recorded to tape. (If a dog barks 90 degrees from a directional mic, and you can't isolate the headphone monitoring, how can you know how bad it was?). We have this Beyerdinamics that we use on our old Nagras that still has the best sound/isolation. I just forgot wich one they are (I don't use the Nagras very often...).
I use Sennheiser HD 25's in my school, and while the sound they make is wonderful, they don't isolate. That's terrible for the field, and I wouldn't mind compromising in quality as long as I could hear only what's being recorded to tape. (If a dog barks 90 degrees from a directional mic, and you can't isolate the headphone monitoring, how can you know how bad it was?). We have this Beyerdinamics that we use on our old Nagras that still has the best sound/isolation. I just forgot wich one they are (I don't use the Nagras very often...).
Re: Headphones for DVX100
dt 48 the head cracker , is the worst if you working with sencitive mikes and have hangling noice or low fq rumble , those are cuttig every thing under 100 hz .
,the sony 7506 are not good unswer for outside penitrating sound which bleed inside the deleyed dvx out which make an ecko which make me craizy when i work directly to camera and sit on the return .
the Sens hd 25
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/02976#
are much better isolation headpphones and more acurate sound (of course it twice expencive )
the 25 comes in 2 vertions the cheep one hd25 sp which doesnt sit so well on your head and has lower performers and less isolation
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/03759#
friend of mine did very nice thing when he took old dt 48 and replaced the monitors with ones from sony 7506 (you just have to increase in few
milimiters the halls )
now his headphones have better outside isolation and he has
more headek
dt 48 the head cracker , is the worst if you working with sencitive mikes and have hangling noice or low fq rumble , those are cuttig every thing under 100 hz .
,the sony 7506 are not good unswer for outside penitrating sound which bleed inside the deleyed dvx out which make an ecko which make me craizy when i work directly to camera and sit on the return .
the Sens hd 25
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/02976#
are much better isolation headpphones and more acurate sound (of course it twice expencive )
the 25 comes in 2 vertions the cheep one hd25 sp which doesnt sit so well on your head and has lower performers and less isolation
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/icm_eng.nsf/root/03759#
friend of mine did very nice thing when he took old dt 48 and replaced the monitors with ones from sony 7506 (you just have to increase in few
milimiters the halls )
now his headphones have better outside isolation and he has
more headek
taubkin
Veteran
Re: Headphones for DVX100
Ok, thanks for the correction, so I was complaining about the HD25-sp headphones, while the HD25 is good to go.
Yes! the dt 48's are exactly what I was talking about! Talk about head crackers, I couldn't hear the director calling CUT if he was too far from the mic! But they are expensive big earmushes, huh? 400 Bucks at coffeysound?
Wow, those things date back to 1937 and are still in production today! No wonder I liked working with them... And yes, they are heavy as hell...
Ok, thanks for the correction, so I was complaining about the HD25-sp headphones, while the HD25 is good to go.
Yes! the dt 48's are exactly what I was talking about! Talk about head crackers, I couldn't hear the director calling CUT if he was too far from the mic! But they are expensive big earmushes, huh? 400 Bucks at coffeysound?
Wow, those things date back to 1937 and are still in production today! No wonder I liked working with them... And yes, they are heavy as hell...
Barry_Green
Moderator
Re: Headphones for DVX100
7506's are a very good match for the DVX, they're what I use and recommend to everyone.
I've never used these, but EquipmentEmporium.com has high praise for the Audio Technica ATH-M30's: http://equipmentemporium.com/headphon.htm
They say they're basically the equivalent of the Sony at a lower price. B&H sells them at $59.95, so if they truly are competitive with the Sony, that's an incredibly low price for a quality set of cans. Same 65-ohm impedance so they should deliver adequate sound levels...
7506's are a very good match for the DVX, they're what I use and recommend to everyone.
I've never used these, but EquipmentEmporium.com has high praise for the Audio Technica ATH-M30's: http://equipmentemporium.com/headphon.htm
They say they're basically the equivalent of the Sony at a lower price. B&H sells them at $59.95, so if they truly are competitive with the Sony, that's an incredibly low price for a quality set of cans. Same 65-ohm impedance so they should deliver adequate sound levels...
Dave_Fisk
Well-known member
Re: Headphones for DVX100
The Beyer headphones are great, but expensive. I would go with the following.
-Sony MDR7506
-Sennheiser HD280
-Sennheiser HD25
I personally own the HD280's. They fit my head the best, and I think are more accurate than the Sony's, and offer more rejection. They are a little bit more bulky than the Sony's, so keep that in mind.
I am of the opinion that you want good quality headphones, but not too good. No consumer is ever going to spend $400 on headphones, and the average home theater or regular theater that your project is going to be screened in is not going to have the best sound system. If your sound sounds good in a $100 pair of headphones, it'll sound good anywhere.
-Dave
PS. I have the same opinion of speakers too.
The Beyer headphones are great, but expensive. I would go with the following.
-Sony MDR7506
-Sennheiser HD280
-Sennheiser HD25
I personally own the HD280's. They fit my head the best, and I think are more accurate than the Sony's, and offer more rejection. They are a little bit more bulky than the Sony's, so keep that in mind.
I am of the opinion that you want good quality headphones, but not too good. No consumer is ever going to spend $400 on headphones, and the average home theater or regular theater that your project is going to be screened in is not going to have the best sound system. If your sound sounds good in a $100 pair of headphones, it'll sound good anywhere.
-Dave
PS. I have the same opinion of speakers too.
Re: Headphones for DVX100
[quote author=taubkin link=board=audio;num=1090495830;start=0#4 date=07/22/04 at 11:16:31]Ok, thanks for the correction, so I was complaining about the HD25-sp headphones, while the HD25 is good to go.
Yes! the dt 48's are exactly what I was talking about! Talk about head crackers, I couldn't hear the director calling CUT if he was too far from the mic! But they are expensive big earmushes, huh? 400 Bucks at coffeysound?
Wow, those things date back to 1937 and are still in production today! No wonder I liked working with them... And yes, they are heavy as hell...[/quote]
i dont think that still someone normal is working with the dt 48 exept dos who recording races or
maybe dos who still runs the nagras or their gosts
if someone have one par with bad capsuls or with out the capsuls at all and wont reed of them i would love to trade
its look like that
http://www.trewaudio.com/images/consign/3151.jpg
[quote author=taubkin link=board=audio;num=1090495830;start=0#4 date=07/22/04 at 11:16:31]Ok, thanks for the correction, so I was complaining about the HD25-sp headphones, while the HD25 is good to go.
Yes! the dt 48's are exactly what I was talking about! Talk about head crackers, I couldn't hear the director calling CUT if he was too far from the mic! But they are expensive big earmushes, huh? 400 Bucks at coffeysound?
Wow, those things date back to 1937 and are still in production today! No wonder I liked working with them... And yes, they are heavy as hell...[/quote]
i dont think that still someone normal is working with the dt 48 exept dos who recording races or
maybe dos who still runs the nagras or their gosts
if someone have one par with bad capsuls or with out the capsuls at all and wont reed of them i would love to trade
its look like that
http://www.trewaudio.com/images/consign/3151.jpg
Re: Headphones for DVX100
Around the audio studio I have Sony MD7506s, AT M30s and M40s, Fostex T20s, AKG 240s and a pair of the HD 280s (need headphones enough for a five-piece band if required, plus me).
For location work with the DVX I've found the Sony 7506s and the AT M30s to be the best for isolation/transparency. They seal out noise really well (drummers can't even hear their kit if their wearing these), they're pretty accurate but with a definite presence rise around 3-5kHz. The Sony's are the more comfortable pair for my head, and i like how they pack down and come with their own bag.
DEFINITELY worth the price.
Around the audio studio I have Sony MD7506s, AT M30s and M40s, Fostex T20s, AKG 240s and a pair of the HD 280s (need headphones enough for a five-piece band if required, plus me).
For location work with the DVX I've found the Sony 7506s and the AT M30s to be the best for isolation/transparency. They seal out noise really well (drummers can't even hear their kit if their wearing these), they're pretty accurate but with a definite presence rise around 3-5kHz. The Sony's are the more comfortable pair for my head, and i like how they pack down and come with their own bag.
DEFINITELY worth the price.
Re: Headphones for DVX100
I don't care what everyones says about those $100+ headphones but my Yamaha RH-2B rock. for $18.97 at sweetwater, they are unbeatable..great sound reproduction for a price. believe me, when you put them on you will be amazed what you get for those silly $19. Had to buy them to find out. Again, great headphones and plus I can afford to buy 2 of them lol. one for my dvx field and one for my studio.
M.
I don't care what everyones says about those $100+ headphones but my Yamaha RH-2B rock. for $18.97 at sweetwater, they are unbeatable..great sound reproduction for a price. believe me, when you put them on you will be amazed what you get for those silly $19. Had to buy them to find out. Again, great headphones and plus I can afford to buy 2 of them lol. one for my dvx field and one for my studio.
M.
Re: Headphones for DVX100
For what it's worth, I too have the Sony 7506, and I'm very pleased. Comfort is a huge issue with me, and I was surprised how comfortable the Sony is. I find most headphones really annoying to wear for a long time, but I can wear the 7506 for hours.
And they sound great too.
For what it's worth, I too have the Sony 7506, and I'm very pleased. Comfort is a huge issue with me, and I was surprised how comfortable the Sony is. I find most headphones really annoying to wear for a long time, but I can wear the 7506 for hours.
And they sound great too.
Dave_Fisk
Well-known member
Re: Headphones for DVX100
[quote author=Michal Spimr link=board=audio;num=1090495830;start=0#9 date=07/26/04 at 02:33:55]I don't care what everyones says about those $100+ headphones but my Yamaha RH-2B rock. for $18.97 at sweetwater, they are unbeatable..great sound reproduction for a price. believe me, when you put them on you will be amazed what you get for those silly $19. Had to buy them to find out. Again, great headphones and plus I can afford to buy 2 of them lol. one for my dvx field and one for my studio.
M.[/quote]
You pay for what you get...most of the time. I haven't heard these specific headphones, but I've never heard anything from Yamaha that sounds good. Have you tried the 7506's, or hd280's? I used to think my Audiovox headphones were good, until I listened to actual good headphones.
My rule of thumb is this. Look at what other proffesionals use. They use certain headphones for a reason.
The best thing to do is to go into your local shop and try out a bunch, and see which ones you like the best. We all have our preferences.
-Dave
[quote author=Michal Spimr link=board=audio;num=1090495830;start=0#9 date=07/26/04 at 02:33:55]I don't care what everyones says about those $100+ headphones but my Yamaha RH-2B rock. for $18.97 at sweetwater, they are unbeatable..great sound reproduction for a price. believe me, when you put them on you will be amazed what you get for those silly $19. Had to buy them to find out. Again, great headphones and plus I can afford to buy 2 of them lol. one for my dvx field and one for my studio.
M.[/quote]
You pay for what you get...most of the time. I haven't heard these specific headphones, but I've never heard anything from Yamaha that sounds good. Have you tried the 7506's, or hd280's? I used to think my Audiovox headphones were good, until I listened to actual good headphones.
My rule of thumb is this. Look at what other proffesionals use. They use certain headphones for a reason.
The best thing to do is to go into your local shop and try out a bunch, and see which ones you like the best. We all have our preferences.
-Dave
Re: Headphones for DVX100
the truth is that they do not cancel the noise out that well, but for quite studio work it's just perfect. I tried several headphones and of course there were many that would top these yamaha, however those were also priced accordingly. For studio under 70 ro so bucks these are in my wallet and ear a winner. I gota recommended to use these from few local pro musicians (university professors) who have been using them in their studios for their recs. Of course if you have the extra budget and need features such as good noise cancel go for 7506. Peace Dave, just wanted to throw an option for those on budget as I was, when looking for HP.
Michal
the truth is that they do not cancel the noise out that well, but for quite studio work it's just perfect. I tried several headphones and of course there were many that would top these yamaha, however those were also priced accordingly. For studio under 70 ro so bucks these are in my wallet and ear a winner. I gota recommended to use these from few local pro musicians (university professors) who have been using them in their studios for their recs. Of course if you have the extra budget and need features such as good noise cancel go for 7506. Peace Dave
, just wanted to throw an option for those on budget as I was, when looking for HP. Michal
MattinSTL
Sound Modulator
Re: Headphones for DVX100
The way the Sonys fold up is really valuable. They also sound great with a slight presence peak in the vocal range to help monitor dialog and they isolate well... as stated, they may not be the absolute BEST phones available for video, but they are the best choice for anywhere near the price. You NEED isolation or it's game over... the more the better... but for significantly more isolation you'll have to spend about double.
Also the 7506 pads are replaceable. I did it already.
The way the Sonys fold up is really valuable. They also sound great with a slight presence peak in the vocal range to help monitor dialog and they isolate well... as stated, they may not be the absolute BEST phones available for video, but they are the best choice for anywhere near the price. You NEED isolation or it's game over... the more the better... but for significantly more isolation you'll have to spend about double.
Also the 7506 pads are replaceable. I did it already.
Re: Headphones for DVX100
Just to throw my $.02 in, I've used just about every headphone on the planet. For life production sound, I rely on the Sony 7506's as well.
Of course, if it's gonna be several hours of earlobe-crushing, I sometimes temporarily switch to earbuds for comfort.
But that's after I've started to drink.
TM
Just to throw my $.02 in, I've used just about every headphone on the planet. For life production sound, I rely on the Sony 7506's as well.
Of course, if it's gonna be several hours of earlobe-crushing, I sometimes temporarily switch to earbuds for comfort.
But that's after I've started to drink.
TM