HD: How much more time?

GHKAM

GHKAM

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Just wondering how much longer HD will be considered acceptable and 4K will be demanded...and will different levels of expertise matter: pros>enthusiast>low-budget directors>shooting a friend's event, etc.?

When will Craigslist 'videographer wanted' ads typically say "4k only"? Not 4K cropped to HD, but actually shooting/retaining 4K.

Perhaps things will really start to shake up by 2016 or...?

Thoughts?
 
David Jimerson said:
Demanded by whom? Any number of places still accept SD.
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Ok...but SD is not ubiqutous. Of course you can shoot on a Super 8 if you want.

"Demanded", as I said in OP, may be dependent on expertise/market level...that's what I was wondering how much time in that regard/when will it trickle down altogether.

Or perhaps HD will always be alongside 4k (until the next thing, such as 8K)?
 
GHKAM said:
Ok...but SD is not ubiqutous. Of course you can shoot on a Super 8 if you want.

"Demanded", as I said in OP, may be dependent on expertise/market level...that's what I was wondering how much time in that regard/when will it trickle down altogether.

Or perhaps HD will always be alongside 4k (until the next thing, such as 8K)?
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For the forseeable future... 1920x1080 will be the dominant display resolution... Whether 'capture' will move up to 4K and then downsized to 2K (or HD) will remain to be seen...
 
As soon as tv broadcast can do 4k. Like they did in the early days of HD from SD. You can treat 4k like you did with HD back in the day because it's the same thing going on now as in the early days of HD. Either try to embrace it and be ready for when it comes, or wait till it passes you by.
 
No one can say for sure, and different clients will be different (i.e. when will wedding couple "demand" 4K vs when will shooting for Nike or Discovery channel "demand" 4K vs when will XYZ small business "demand" 4K).

If your question is, when will 4K be ubiquitous, I would wager well after 2016. Most people have just finally settled into some nice HDTVs and Blu Ray and HD streaming and are quite happy with it. Prices on 4K TV sets are still high. 4K monitors are still rare. Bandwidth is still limited.

Realistically, I think 4K won't be at the same place as HD in the market is today for another 5 years or so. Maybe longer. Look how long HDTV transition took, and that quality jump from SD to HD is far more perceivable for many people. That doesn't mean clients won't start wanting 4K even now, BUT it's going to be TOTALLY contingent on the client.

On the flip side, it shouldn't matter too much. Most prosumer cameras from today forward will likely have 4K shooting modes, so I wouldn't personally be in a rush JUST for 4K but when it comes time to upgrade your kit you should be safe. Depending on your line of work, I do not see the need as urgent.
 
Ask 10 people you know when they plan to upgrade their HD flat screens to 4k screens. It should give you some idea.
 
GHKAM said:
Ok...but SD is not ubiqutous. Of course you can shoot on a Super 8 if you want.

"Demanded", as I said in OP, may be dependent on expertise/market level...that's what I was wondering how much time in that regard/when will it trickle down altogether.

Or perhaps HD will always be alongside 4k (until the next thing, such as 8K)?
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You were asking how long it would be before you couldn't even shoot HD and have it accepted, and suggested two years from now. I'm simply saying that when you still, now, 2014, have a lot of acceptance of SD, the idea that HD will be gone in two years is pretty far-fetched. Especially if you're talking about projects which would be trawling for shooters on Craigslist.

HD is going to be around for quite a while, I'd have to think.
 
GHKAM said:
When will Craigslist 'videographer wanted' ads typically say "4k only"? Not 4K cropped to HD, but actually shooting/retaining 4K.
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That's why they've been demanding Red Epics for well over a year in return for their princely rewards of meals and credit
 
I'm really hoping to get at least another 5 years out of my F3 for independent doc work and online content, and I'll bet I can get away with it. Broadcast has a way to go to be ready for the switch, as well. Many, many mid-level stations just barely made the switch to solid-state workflow.

I think that theatrically, however, 1080 is already de passé.
 
The majority of my work are TV commercials where the deliverable is 1080i. I have only delivered 3 projects in 4K or above since 2008. In my little world HD will be around for some time to come.
 
The most money making deliverables for me is still 480i in 2014. That's right. Not even 1080i, but 480i broadcasting. I won't jump into the 4K bandwagon until 2nd or 3rd generation - so it's looking more like 2020 and beyond. By then 4K cam will be even better than 2014 model. Why waste all of the hard earned money? This is a deja vu of 1080i HD back in 2002. Not falling for that trick again. I'm speculating the mass public has so much disposable income to burn on 4K when the stagnant salary and economic woes are right in front of us. I'm willing to bet many of the us can barely afford their medical insurance. 4K is just not ripe yet. It may stay afloat for many years before making a big impact on the mass consumer.
 
Who's delivering in 4k right now? ...and if you say Hollywood, I think most of those are still being finished in 2k today, even when they're being shown in those few 4k theaters.
 
I hope it's not anytime soon. . .I STILL don't have an HD camera of any kind, and am JUST NOW looking into getting an EX1-r!
 
Sadly in the corporate world HD is still seen as a gimmick, I recently was asked to re edit a video shot by another company whilst dropping in two new interviews.
The Original video arrived as a 360p file.

I thought this was an error on the PR departments side as i requested a HD version but I was told, oh no thats the version we send out.
And this is not an isolated incident.
 
HD transmissions in Sweden are in 720p resolution and looks darn good. But bandwidth is limited and I doubt broadcasters will choose to reduce the number of channels to gain better higher image quality as is needed for 4k. It's a commercial driven business and all they want to do is to sell advertisments and the only free HD transmission is from the state television that's free from commercials.

On the other hand I see great benifits to be had at the production level with 4k capture and once the technology has matured I'm ready.
 
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Loooook into the globe and tell me what do you see??? The future dates of resolution demands of broadcast, web, weddings???

Or, something more knowable, such as- why do people worry about things long before they have to???

That will be $25, please.
 
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