have the kinks with vista been worked out?
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TwistedLincoln
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In the interest of being honest, I'll say that I've read elsewhere on these forums (cant' remember where) that people were using Vegas under Vista without issues.
That said, I STRONGLY encourage you not to purchase Vista. Here's a few reasons why:
1) Product Activation & Genuine Advantage:
Unlike the simply offensive Product Activation that XP uses, Vista is designed from the ground up to give Microsoft full control over your purchase. Periodic "genunie advantage" checks occur when you get updates, and if for any reason (including the very frequent false positives) it believes your copy of Windows isn't "genuine", you get a feature Microsoft calls "Reduced Functionality Mode." They try to market this as a anti-piracy feature, but in reality it is basically a locked-down mode in which you are not allowed to access your desktop, programs, or files. You can only use Internet Explorer, and only for an hour at a time before it automatically logs you off. Considering the number of false positives that have occurred with the Genuine Advantage process, I sure wouldn't want to trust any computer that I rely on for my business to being subject to Reduced Functionality Mode...
More info on Reduced Functionality Mode directly from Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925582
And read this article about the periodic validation:
http://www.mypcpros.com/computer-blog/2007/5/1/microsofts-new-validation-policy.html
2) Poor use of system resources:
The minimum system requirements for Vista are double that of XP. In order to get the same performance out of your system, you'll need to upgrade many major components. Running Vista with 1gb of Ram feels like running XP with 256mb...
3) Not well supported:
I have had many customers report that their mission-critical business software won't run on Vista.
4) Microsoft wants to force you to upgrade:
Many new PCs shipping with Vista don't have ANY drivers available for XP or 2000. I've had multiple customers ask for my help in getting XP to install on their newly purchased Vista machines (again, because their software wouldn't run on Vista). Looking up the units on the manufacturer's websites yielded nothing. Calling customer support simply made us aware of the obvious: Microsoft doesn't want anyone using XP, they want to force Vista upon the world. The best way to do that? Make it a one-way trip. While it's just speculation, I wouldn't be too shocked if you were unable to reactivate your copy of XP if you decided to go back from Vista...
XP is bad enough. Vista is unacceptable in every way. Don't fall into the "everyone has to upgrade sooner or later" trap. There are plenty of other options.
My video editing box still runs Windows 2000, and runs Vegas just fine. I never have to worry about "Reduced Functionality Mode" or having to call up Microsoft and ask permission to reinstall the OS that I legally purchased.
Boycott Vista, and make the world a slightly better place...
That said, I STRONGLY encourage you not to purchase Vista. Here's a few reasons why:
1) Product Activation & Genuine Advantage:
Unlike the simply offensive Product Activation that XP uses, Vista is designed from the ground up to give Microsoft full control over your purchase. Periodic "genunie advantage" checks occur when you get updates, and if for any reason (including the very frequent false positives) it believes your copy of Windows isn't "genuine", you get a feature Microsoft calls "Reduced Functionality Mode." They try to market this as a anti-piracy feature, but in reality it is basically a locked-down mode in which you are not allowed to access your desktop, programs, or files. You can only use Internet Explorer, and only for an hour at a time before it automatically logs you off. Considering the number of false positives that have occurred with the Genuine Advantage process, I sure wouldn't want to trust any computer that I rely on for my business to being subject to Reduced Functionality Mode...
More info on Reduced Functionality Mode directly from Microsoft:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925582
And read this article about the periodic validation:
http://www.mypcpros.com/computer-blog/2007/5/1/microsofts-new-validation-policy.html
2) Poor use of system resources:
The minimum system requirements for Vista are double that of XP. In order to get the same performance out of your system, you'll need to upgrade many major components. Running Vista with 1gb of Ram feels like running XP with 256mb...
3) Not well supported:
I have had many customers report that their mission-critical business software won't run on Vista.
4) Microsoft wants to force you to upgrade:
Many new PCs shipping with Vista don't have ANY drivers available for XP or 2000. I've had multiple customers ask for my help in getting XP to install on their newly purchased Vista machines (again, because their software wouldn't run on Vista). Looking up the units on the manufacturer's websites yielded nothing. Calling customer support simply made us aware of the obvious: Microsoft doesn't want anyone using XP, they want to force Vista upon the world. The best way to do that? Make it a one-way trip. While it's just speculation, I wouldn't be too shocked if you were unable to reactivate your copy of XP if you decided to go back from Vista...
XP is bad enough. Vista is unacceptable in every way. Don't fall into the "everyone has to upgrade sooner or later" trap. There are plenty of other options.
My video editing box still runs Windows 2000, and runs Vegas just fine. I never have to worry about "Reduced Functionality Mode" or having to call up Microsoft and ask permission to reinstall the OS that I legally purchased.
Boycott Vista, and make the world a slightly better place...
jinks
Well-known member
Twistedlincoln you give a very good anaysis of vista. I just got a new 2 ghz duo core notebook this week but so far it's been nothing but trouble to get some of my software to work. One of them being Dvrack hd, each time I tried insalling it kept asking me to get the latest version of .net framework which it never did with XP. Then after getting it, it asked me to get the latest service pack, after downloading it, I was again asked to "turn on/off" of something in control panel... which btw is a pain until you get a good handle of it. Bottom line I called adobe tech support only to be told that DVrack hd is not yet compartible with vista not until July or later.
General perfomance wise... I'm much happier with my old desktop with XP. I thought a 2 gig duo core 2 GHZ laptop would cruise in the fast lane, but it's turning out to be much slower than my 512 mb desktop.
Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can shed more light on this.
General perfomance wise... I'm much happier with my old desktop with XP. I thought a 2 gig duo core 2 GHZ laptop would cruise in the fast lane, but it's turning out to be much slower than my 512 mb desktop.
Maybe somebody more knowledgeable can shed more light on this.
jinks
Well-known member
Hmmnn... I'm getting more disappointed with vista. How come Taormina and probably others don't seem to have this issue with their vegas?