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stefanocps

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Hello, may be this has been posted already many times, if so please link me some recent topic

Need to assemply a new pc to use with Premiere and the files from my Fuji xt3, 4k, 200/400 mbit...possibily h265

I wanto to but somehting that will allow me to work trying to keep the budget as low as possible.

Right now i canno even play back the files with my I7 2600 (3.4), 32gb ram and gtx760



The first question is INTEL or AMD cpu, then what graphic card



Thanks
 
Just my opinion for what its worth. H265 was not designed to be an editing codec. Its a deliverable codec. Typically, this should either be transcoded to an edit friendly codec or captured via a Ninja V to an edit friendly codec. You also have a proxy workflow as an option.

Any of these methods will save you a ton of money and would not need a powerhouse computer.
 
ReelWorksMedia said:
Just my opinion for what its worth. H265 was not designed to be an editing codec. Its a deliverable codec. Typically, this should either be transcoded to an edit friendly codec or captured via a Ninja V to an edit friendly codec. You also have a proxy workflow as an option.

Any of these methods will save you a ton of money and would not need a powerhouse computer.
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yes, i a m ready to work with proxy or similar, so don t really want a powerhouse pc
Still would like suggestion, for example an 8th generation intel will be good?And about gpu, most say that it is not realy crucial in editing, other say to invest a lot on it..what is true?
 
Generally AMD 3000 CPUs outperform Intel CPUs at all levels, but this can vary by the software you are using. ( some NLEs aren't coded well for multi processor CPUs )

As for GPUs, again it will depend on the NLE you are using, but currently nVidia GPUs have a small advantage over the latest generation AMD GPUs. ( you may be able to get a better price on AMD GPUs because of this )

Long term, I would look at buying or building a computer that uses an AMD 570 motherboard that has PCIe 4.0 support and that will be able to use the next gen AMD CPUs coming over the next 3+ years.
 
rignt now i use premiere. May be some times i will start to learn Resolve, but ..may be. You confirm AMD is better than Intel?
 
stefanocps said:
You confirm AMD is better than Intel?
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Take a look at any of the CPU comparison videos on YouTube that include multi-processor tests, and you will see that AMD takes the cake for multi-processor performance. ( make sure you look at non-gaming benchmarks, as Intel still has a bit of a lead when running 3D games )

Linus Tech Tips even made a video about how to dump your Intel CPU without losing too much money...

 
TheDingo said:
Take a look at any of the CPU comparison videos on YouTube that include multi-processor tests, and you will see that AMD takes the cake for multi-processor performance. ( make sure you look at non-gaming benchmarks, as Intel still has a bit of a lead when running 3D games )

Linus Tech Tips even made a video about how to dump your Intel CPU without losing too much money...

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Ok i am quite convinced about AMD cpu. But what about gpu? Amd system based goes well with Nvidia card? Because i have read lots of complaint about AMD gpu!
 
stefanocps said:
But what about gpu? Amd system based goes well with Nvidia card? Because i have read lots of complaint about AMD gpu!
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nVidia seems to be the safer bet. I edit with MAGIX Vegas Pro 17 and Vegas seems to like AMD GPUs more than nVidia GPUs. ( currently I'm editing on a 2 year old nVidia GTX 1070 card on my main computer )
 
TheDingo said:
nVidia seems to be the safer bet. I edit with MAGIX Vegas Pro 17 and Vegas seems to like AMD GPUs more than nVidia GPUs. ( currently I'm editing on a 2 year old nVidia GTX 1070 card on my main computer )
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gtx 1070 is what i am thinking about too...about cpu 3600 would be enough?3700 coust much more...
 
stefanocps said:
gtx 1070 is what i am thinking about too...about cpu 3600 would be enough?3700 coust much more...
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Any of the AMD 3000 CPUs should be fine, and you can always upgrade to a higher end CPU in a year or so when the price comes down. ( AMD intends on releasing a newer generation of CPUs roughly every 12 - 18 months, so older CPUs will definitely drop in price )
 
I'm selling a Nvidia 1070 now if you're interested, cheap! Presumably you are using a PC and this card was given some mac firmware, but I bet you can flash it back. I'm not certain of this but I can ask the guy who sells them at macvidcards.com.
 
I'm probably going to get flamed but you could also ditch the PC, stop paying Adobe a monthly extortion fee, get an iMac and FCP X and just ingest your H.265 in as Prores?
Yes, you would be on a Mac, using a different editing program, but it's the fastest, most efficient editor out there. I have a couple of decades of experience with all of the big four with high profile
deliveries for the studios and networks, under time and budget pressure.

With FCP X, you begin can editing almost as soon as you hit import and FCP chugs away in the BG, turning it into Prores as you edit. Any other way of
working with H.265 is kind of backwards. Having to go through an entire transcode process to even load the footage into an editing program to edit it, it feels as thats a counterintuitive workflow,
all the while paying Adobe monthly for the slowest, least stable editing program on the market. It sounds like a masochistic, frustratingly inefficient way to edit.
 
puredrifting said:
I'm probably going to get flamed but you could also ditch the PC, stop paying Adobe a monthly extortion fee
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Many people have dumped Adobe for Resolve + Fusion where you pay a one time $300 fee for the software, and you have access to affordable new high performance hardware from AMD.

I was a fan of FCP X until Apple dropped support for Cineform and DNxHD CODECs which meant for me that many past projects could not be updated without having to re-edit the entire thing all over again. I went with Cineform six years ago because it meant files that could be edited on Mac or Windows so they could be passed back and forth, and the NLE you used to edit with did not matter.
 
TheDingo said:
I was a fan of FCP X until Apple dropped support for Cineform and DNxHD CODECs which meant for me that many past projects could not be updated without having to re-edit the entire thing all over again. I went with Cineform six years ago because it meant files that could be edited on Mac or Windows so they could be passed back and forth, and the NLE you used to edit with did not matter.
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True, Apple, in their obsession with making their systems incompatible with anything from the even recent past, has alienated a lot of long time editors who have a lot of material in these old codecs. I second Resolve/Fusion, it's a good combo too that I am still learning. From my own experience, I can still cut much faster with FCP X than Resolve but the ancillary programs for Resolve like the CC, Fusion and Fairlight are more powerful than the Apple versions. CC in FCP X is fine but pales in comparison to Resolve CC.
 
talking about moteherboard now. I have read that mb are not really built for ryzen 3rd series yet, in some cases they need bios update and in some cases these mb can't take the full advantage of ryzen 3rd series because of some incompatibility
Who can tell more about this, and in case what mb look for?
thank you
 
stefanocps said:
I have read that mb are not really built for ryzen 3rd series yet
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Any board based upon the 570 chipset is designed to take full advantage of the Ryzen 3000 series of CPUs. Lots of 570 boards on the market, some that are very affordable.


stefanocps said:
in some cases they need bios update and in some cases these mb can't take the full advantage of ryzen 3rd series because of some incompatibility
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Different issue. People were complaining that they weren't getting the maximum boost speed from their new Ryzen CPU, so AMD released updated BIOS for the newer motherboards that improved the situation. Personally I think the whole thing is silly because the difference in boost speed was only a few percent and won't make any noticeable difference without benchmarking it.

If you're after the best of the best for AMD 3000 CPUs, the higher priced motherboards have better and more stable power to the CPU and memory which allows for maximum overclock speed and generally a more stable computer. If you're not overclocking then it doesn't matter too much, though you might get more stable performance over the long run.

Also the Gamers Nexus YouTube channel does motherboard reviews from time to time, where they bring in a well known motherboard reviewer called Buildzoid, who breaks down why some boards are better than others...

 
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