Harddisk space Aspect HD

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Ivo van Aart

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Hi,

First of all: this is my first post (I've been reading a lot on this forum though). So hello!:beer:

I've searched the entire forum, but I guess I'm not that good at it. So i'll just ask it again if that's not a problem. I've never found a clear answer to this:

I got my canon xh a1 yesterday, and I want to edit my footage. Now I know that Aspect HD is a beautiful piece of software that gives you more realtime editing possibilities, but I also read somewhere that it converts your material to another type of file. A file that has a bigger size than your average HDV-file. Now I would like know how much more space it requires on a harddrive to edit with Aspect HD. How much gig's per hour for example?

Oh, and one other thing:
I'd really like to edit with a laptop. I'm buying a new laptop soon. It'll have Vista (but I can make a dualboot with XP if necessary) and the specs will be:
-2.0 ghz t7200 intel dual core
-1 gb ram (i'll upgrade to 2)
-That Ati videocard that is found in macbook pro's (256 mb)

Is this enough to edit about 15 hours raw footage into a 75 minutes feature?

Thanks in advance!

Ivo van Aart
 
That's a hell of lot more than dv! Wow... but does the computer need to build renderfiles when I use Aspect HD?
You see, I'm a Final Cut Pro DV editor, and I am used to have the capture files AND the render files. But maybe I don't need to render much through Aspect HD?

And about the RAID: I was thinking of getting a 1tb external harddisk with raid. You think that will be enough?
 
Are you using Premiere? It will conform the files whether you use Aspect HD or not so be prepared to deal with that too.
 
Ivo van Aart said:
And about the RAID: I was thinking of getting a 1tb external harddisk with raid. You think that will be enough?
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External RAIDs wont really do anything unless your connecting to them quickly. Most of these blocks you see at Fry's and stuff are pretty much useless because your connecting to them through USB 2. If you get an external RAID I would recommened it to be eSATA and you can get an eSATA adapter for your laptop.
 
Ivo van Aart said:
Yeah, conforming, I heard something about that... what happens when Premiere conforms?
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Basically it interprets the audio and saves the data into your stratch disk. Depending on the amount and length of the files you have in the project bin the project size can get quite large. I imagine 15 hours of footage will take up quite a bit of space.
 
heimpel said:
External RAIDs wont really do anything unless your connecting to them quickly. Most of these blocks you see at Fry's and stuff are pretty much useless because your connecting to them through USB 2. If you get an external RAID I would recommened it to be eSATA and you can get an eSATA adapter for your laptop.
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But if those external raid harddisks are useless without eSATA, why do they exist?

Basically it interprets the audio and saves the data into your stratch disk. Depending on the amount and length of the files you have in the project bin the project size can get quite large. I imagine 15 hours of footage will take up quite a bit of space.
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Does Vegas do this too? And is Vegas as professional as Premiere Pro? (I picked premiere pro because I heard it's much like Final Cut).
 
By itself, the hard drive doesn't exist in a RAID configuration. They need to be connected to the motherboard via a SATA connection and then you need to configure the driver to set them to the RAID level you want. heimpel was referring to the generic USB/Firewire drives that you can get very cheaply. Those are fine for storage but you can't RAID them.

The term "professional" doesn't mean much now in comparing these NLE. They all do pretty much the same thing with some being stronger in certain departments and weaker in others. I would imagine that all of these NLE interpret the footage in someway when you first imported them, or else editing wouldn't be possible.

And Premiere is nothing like Final Cut. It's the same in the sense that you still cut footages on a timeline but the interface and tools are different enough that it's a steep learning curve going from one to the other. The same is true for Vegas, Avid etc.
 
Interesting...luckily I am a quick student, I figured most of FCP out in a few hours. I've also heard something about Edius (I know, wrong forum, but it's stupid to make another thread for this). It seems that Edius has an engine that is something like Premiere and Aspect combined. It looks like Edius is more something for me (no conforming, easy HD). Am I wrong or is Edius a better solution for my needs?
 
Ivo van Aart said:
Interesting...luckily I am a quick student, I figured most of FCP out in a few hours. I've also heard something about Edius (I know, wrong forum, but it's stupid to make another thread for this). It seems that Edius has an engine that is something like Premiere and Aspect combined. It looks like Edius is more something for me (no conforming, easy HD). Am I wrong or is Edius a better solution for my needs?
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Does Edius conforms the HDV source into an intraframe intermediate codec? That's what Aspect HD does and that's why editing it is easier. If it works with native HDV then performance is going to depend mostly on your computer spec, not the engine. It's the group of frame nature of the codec itself that's the problem. If you need fast HDV editing and aren't willing to go the Cineform route then the only way is to beef up your hardware.
 
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