Hannibal Rising
- Thread starter jpeck
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I am not a fan of the Lector films and I have never read any of the books. I went with a friend who is a huge fan and was dying to see it.
I didn't like him at all, however he was probably the best actor in the film. I doubt he will become the next big thing. He isn't like Hokins at all, but he has a distinct grin. It reminded me of renditions comic book artists do of Joker, with a really long face.
Gong Li was terrible in the film, she as well as many other characters kept saying Hannibal over and over and the last time she says it I nearly burst out laughing.
It sucks seeing Kevin McKidd as a "bad guy", but I am sure this weeks episode of Rome will knock that crappy image out of my head.
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The biggest problem I had with the film, is that it is very Star Wars prequel. It was more of a tribute to the previous films as well as something made for the fans of the series, rather than an actual film. There were dozens of things that we have seen in other films, from the pigs, his music, lines he says, way he kills people, imagery, it was all done and seen before and felt out of place in this film.
Also, there was a lack of looking at what kind of person he truly is. I loved in other films about him that he is a monster and kills innocent just the same as "bullies". They try and make you sympathize with him, he is out for revenge instead of being a monster. They should have focused much more on this part of him than trying to show his "cool" ways of getting revenge. They did not stress the point of how he along with the "bad guys" ate his sister enough. It was just a weak ending.
I also hated how they killed off his parents, way too much action. A fighter plane crashing into a tank? Lame.
I didn't like him at all, however he was probably the best actor in the film. I doubt he will become the next big thing. He isn't like Hokins at all, but he has a distinct grin. It reminded me of renditions comic book artists do of Joker, with a really long face.
Gong Li was terrible in the film, she as well as many other characters kept saying Hannibal over and over and the last time she says it I nearly burst out laughing.
It sucks seeing Kevin McKidd as a "bad guy", but I am sure this weeks episode of Rome will knock that crappy image out of my head.
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The biggest problem I had with the film, is that it is very Star Wars prequel. It was more of a tribute to the previous films as well as something made for the fans of the series, rather than an actual film. There were dozens of things that we have seen in other films, from the pigs, his music, lines he says, way he kills people, imagery, it was all done and seen before and felt out of place in this film.
Also, there was a lack of looking at what kind of person he truly is. I loved in other films about him that he is a monster and kills innocent just the same as "bullies". They try and make you sympathize with him, he is out for revenge instead of being a monster. They should have focused much more on this part of him than trying to show his "cool" ways of getting revenge. They did not stress the point of how he along with the "bad guys" ate his sister enough. It was just a weak ending.
I also hated how they killed off his parents, way too much action. A fighter plane crashing into a tank? Lame.
c.g._eads said:
Jeremy Ordan
Major Contributor
I have been a fan of Thomas Harris since I read 'Black Sunday' which I found to be a very gripping high energy thriller. The Lector series was something that I read, but lector was never meant to be the major character (hence the problem with Hannibal and now Hannibal Rising).
Thomas Harris, while once an original voiced writer, seems to have since lost his ability to think of conspiracy, international back stabbing, and the horrors of the human mind come to life. He has become obsessed with the fact that Hopkins did a remarkable job creating a three dimensional character from the 2D text and believes there is more there than there actually is.
I read the book and that didn't motivate me to see the film but I consider that more of a knock against Thomas Harris rather than the filmmakers trying to capitalize on an existing franchise that has had extreme critical and box office success.
(BTW: Manhunter is the real Red Dragon film and the book is better than Silence of the Lambs)
Thomas Harris, while once an original voiced writer, seems to have since lost his ability to think of conspiracy, international back stabbing, and the horrors of the human mind come to life. He has become obsessed with the fact that Hopkins did a remarkable job creating a three dimensional character from the 2D text and believes there is more there than there actually is.
I read the book and that didn't motivate me to see the film but I consider that more of a knock against Thomas Harris rather than the filmmakers trying to capitalize on an existing franchise that has had extreme critical and box office success.
(BTW: Manhunter is the real Red Dragon film and the book is better than Silence of the Lambs)
Gotta love "Manhunter."
Jeremy Ordan
Major Contributor
David Jimerson said:
It's got that guy from CSI, it's dark, and the Hannibal character seems to only know that "I'm a bad guy"
It's brilliant, simple, and more true to the source material than the other film entries in the series.
It's interesting, because it's sort of CSI-like, and the character could be a younger version of Petersen's character in CSI.
Zack Birlew
Veteran
I thought it was a good film, had a decent story and kept me going. Only problem? They tried to say that this was Hannibal Lecter.
That's like saying that Nightmare on Elm Street is Edward Scissorhands when he gets older. It just doesn't work.
That's like saying that Nightmare on Elm Street is Edward Scissorhands when he gets older. It just doesn't work.
Billy Pilgrim
Stye in my eye
Jeremy Ordan said:
I don't think after two film, that anyone has really nailed Red Dragon. Not that Red Dragon is really that good of a book to begin with. Harris' books are kind of like Dan Brown and Michael Connely's books: engaging and entertaining, but no depth. Not even Michael Mann could save Manhunter. I still think that Silence of the Lambs is really the only good film in the series. It's a much more mature character drama, instead of a CSI thriller. I'm not really interested in Hannibal Rising.
I guess this book was written. But I get the distinct feeling that it was commissioned in association with the sale of the script idea. So they said "We want to make a Hannibal prequel". "But we don't have a book." "So let's pay Harris ten million dollars to write one." "Okay."
Anyway, I just don't get this prequel nonsense. It started with Lucas and in every incarnation it has not been "artistically" successful. Everybody thinks they want to know how their favorite characters became who they were. But they don't realize that the blurry unformed origin in their own mind is much more interesting than anything a writer can come up with. Give me one satisfying prequel. The more we learn about Hannibal Lecter, the less we like him.
Anyway, I just don't get this prequel nonsense. It started with Lucas and in every incarnation it has not been "artistically" successful. Everybody thinks they want to know how their favorite characters became who they were. But they don't realize that the blurry unformed origin in their own mind is much more interesting than anything a writer can come up with. Give me one satisfying prequel. The more we learn about Hannibal Lecter, the less we like him.
I think "The Godfather II" was enormously successful . . . and good . . .