GROUP BUY - Vaxis Thor 800+

I might be very wrong here, but I remember someone trying to inch in on Teradek like Vaxis and if I'm not mistaken the problem was that the new kid on the block was using illegal signals (stronger than allowed) allowed for consumers in the US, or that it didn't have FCC approval... Anyways, I might be wrong but I believe I read something like that last year or so.
 
A NewsShooter review of one of their(Vaxis) new systems brought something similar up and said the newest systems were supposedly legal, now.

https://www.newsshooter.com/2018/07/24/vaxis-thor-800ft-wireless-video-transmission-system-review/

The article was originally published at the end of July 2018 and "illegal" chips were still being used up-to/in-to June 2018.

There has been lots of speculation and accusations that the Vaxis wireless systems weren’t using genuine or legal parts. Well, let me try and put all of this into perspective. Some of the original Vaxis products, such as the Storm (up until the start of June 2018) were using grey market Amimon chips, not modern Amimon technology. These units that were being brought into the USA were using an outdated FCC ID that did not give them permission to use DFS channels or manual channel selection.

That was the past, now all of the Vaxis products including the Thor 800ft+ are using authentic Amimon chips. Amimon chips are also used in ARRI’s Wireless Video System (WVS), Teradek’s Bolt lineup, the Paralinx ACE, as well as the smallHD 703 Bolt Wireless Monitor.

In fact, the Vaxis Thor is the companies first offering to feature Dynamic Frequency Selection (DFS) which is compulsory for devices that operate on the 5Ghz band to prevent any interference with radar systems. It does this by detecting any frequency pulses during the channel selection process and moves its transmission to another channel if any pulses are detected.

Vaxis tell me that the Amimon chip they are using in the Thor 800+ is more powerful than the one found in the Teradek Bolt LT 500, but I have no way of independently verifying that claim.
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BH is selling them: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...torm_01010102_thor_800_3g_sdi_hdmi_video.html

The legal question is why is a competitor sending cease-and-desist letters to a forum member for an alleged FCC violation (vs. a legit claim regarding patent/copyright/IP owned by competitor)? If the Vaxis product is in fact legal (BH wouldn't likely sell if illegal- big exposure to risk), did the competitor break any laws threatening a forum member (anti-competition/monopoly (antitrust) laws)?
 
So, a lot has unfolded since seeing that it was pulled this morning. Someone from Teradek posted about it on RU and apologized to Travis for the cease & desist. The post is below.


Guys, Let me clarify what has happened:

Vaxis recently began selling authentic Amimon chips in their Thor line of devices. These chips are only legally for sale in China as part of their agreement with Amimon. While technically these chipsets have FCC certification, my understanding is that they do not have the proper software (from Amimon) for legal functionality anywhere outside of China. We also have access to these same chipsets, but we too cannot sell them in the United States. That's just the way it is.

So to summaraize, the GB violates both FCC regulations and Amimon's vendor agreement with Vaxis. While Vaxis might assure you their products comply with FCC statutes, they don't.

The Cease and Desist was not meant to be sent, only drawn up. Our legal team thought Travis was importing and facilitating the sale of illegal equipment, but they acted too quickly. Other parties are already dealing with this behind the scenes so the C&D was not appropriate.

I want to apologize on behalf of Teradek for the heavy-handed letter and I regret it was sent out.

I was not personally involved with pulling the GB post. Im not sure how it happened, but since these are technically illegal products for any market outside of China, I imagine that is why someone felt it necessary to pull.
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Guys, I'm sorry for abandoning this thread! A LOT has gone down the past week and I didn't expect this.

The Vaxis Thor 800 group buy is dead. Reasons why are very complicated but you can read bits and pieces on my "woah" post over at RU.

Teradek has apologized and we worked something out. Thanks for the patience and support. I'll be back w/another gb before ya know it.

TW
 
Is a real pity how this panned out, damaged my opinion of reduser/Teradeck in how they handled this :-/ Oh well
 
I think everyone agrees that it could have been handled better, but it appears Vaxis has admitted that currently the Thor systems, are in fact not legal for sale in the US.
 
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