Gore Shots/ Death Shots/ Squibs Ahoy!

[spankyoldman]

Considering that securing locales for shooting has been met with some difficulty, we may have to opt to, instead of spraying blood/gore about a room, shoot a scene "creatively." While I have various ideas set inside of my own imaginative cranium for this, the inquiry arose within my subconscious if any of yourselves could offer possibly alternative shots/lighting techniques for setting the mood without ruining a generous volunteer's household?

 

[Slapdragon]

Re: Gore Shots/ Death Shots/ Squibs Ahoy!

[quote author=Mort Stephenson link=board=news;num=1089134081;start=0#0 date=07/06/04 at 10:14:41]Considering that securing locales for shooting has been met with some difficulty, we may have to opt to, instead of spraying blood/gore about a room, shoot a scene "creatively." While I have various ideas set inside of my own imaginative cranium for this, the inquiry arose within my subconscious if any of yourselves could offer possibly alternative shots/lighting techniques for setting the mood without ruining a generous volunteer's household?
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For bullet hits, no one uses squibs anymore, they are too dangerous. Now days you can make your own air poppers and use them. An air popper is a plastic tube that is run into the talents clothing and into a bag of blood. The tube is fixed to a bike pump or some other manual pump on one side, and onto a tube of blood on the other held in place by wads. The tube end in concealed with cray paper on the talent's clothing. When it comes time to shoot the talent, they take the shot, the grip pumps the pump, and the blood dribbles out rather cleanly. You can also use graphite dust which reduces the gore, and looks like a hot bullet hit.

Remember that blanks are bad. Rent or purchase actual safety guns.

If you have money, you can hire an SFX company to send you a pre made resusable kit for almost any effect. Heads popping off are actually very tough, but bullet hits are easy.

 

[New_Zealand]

Re: Gore Shots/ Death Shots/ Squibs Ahoy!

We used a squib on our film shoot and didn't have any problems with it, not sure what you mean no one use it anymore. BUT then we had Actor Tom Cruise personal weapon trainer on our set handling all the squib scenes. Tom was just finishing up his 'Last Samurai' film in New Zealand when Ashford flew down to Gisborne New Zealand to work on our film, then he was off to meet up with Tom for his next project.

So I guess if you are going to use a squib make sure you have someone that knows what they are doing.

 

[Slapdragon]

Re: Gore Shots/ Death Shots/ Squibs Ahoy!

[quote author=New_Zealand link=board=news;num=1089134081;start=0#2 date=07/06/04 at 20:21:18]We used a squib on our film shoot and didn't have any problems with it, not sure what you mean no one use it anymore.  BUT then we had Actor Tom Cruise personal weapon trainer on our set handling all the squib scenes. Tom was just finishing up his 'Last Samurai' film in New Zealand when Ashford flew down to Gisborne New Zealand to work on our film, then he was off to meet up with Tom for his next project.

So I guess if you are going to use a squib make sure you have someone that knows what they are doing.  [/quote]

We are using air units now -- in fact I have never seen squibs in the past three years. The advantage of air units is they are very easy to reset, and are not as dangerous to operate. But then again, we did not have an explosives person when I last used them.

 

[IsraelHoudini]

Re: Gore Shots/ Death Shots/ Squibs Ahoy!

you could go the extremely creative route and imply the gore. then the audience will fill in the blanks with thier imagination, which is 1000x more powerful than any rehash of an effect theyve seen countless times. if your film has predicated the amount of gore possible within its context, then leaving it to the viewer is much more powerful, and artistic. it all depends on the strength of the story, the actors, and editing. a reaction to an event is better than the event itself. for example , a violent crime scene. hardened cop steps out of scene and hurls. the audience never sees the scene itself, but judging from the fact that a seasoned veteran who has been doing this for years cant stomach it, then the implication is this is something a cut above the rest.