QuickSloth
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Any recomendations on a good high hat for little $?
Good cheap high hat for DVX
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J.R. Hudson
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Contact one of our members:
overlandfilms (send him a PM)
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/member.php?u=4020
overlandfilms (send him a PM)
http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/member.php?u=4020
QuickSloth
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I think the link to Marketplace is broken.
Sirius_Doggy
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Get there from here:
http://www.expeditionfilmpartners.com/store/dept/products/p200.html
though I don't believe he sells the actual high-hats, only the boards. I could be mistaken....
Check these out:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=pagination&A=nextPage&Q=&catId=3912&compareCatId=3912&shs=&ci=3912&ac=&al=&bl=&sb=bs%2Cupper%28ds%29&sq=asc&fi=all&pn=1
Or give Rush a call at EVS
http://www.evsonline.com/index.shtml
800.238.8480
http://www.expeditionfilmpartners.com/store/dept/products/p200.html
though I don't believe he sells the actual high-hats, only the boards. I could be mistaken....
Check these out:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=pagination&A=nextPage&Q=&catId=3912&compareCatId=3912&shs=&ci=3912&ac=&al=&bl=&sb=bs%2Cupper%28ds%29&sq=asc&fi=all&pn=1
Or give Rush a call at EVS
http://www.evsonline.com/index.shtml
800.238.8480
QuickSloth
Active member
I am hoping to get a recomendation on a specific high hat. I don't think I will need a board because I will be using the high hat on uneven terrain.
Can anyone recomend a specific model of high hat?
Can anyone recomend a specific model of high hat?
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Have you PM's Overland?
Hello?
Hello?
QuickSloth
Active member
I haven't PM Overland yet. I thought they didn't sell high hats, only the boards. Should I still PM them?
Sirius_Doggy
Veteran
ppt - look at my link to B&H above.
It's basically a mini tripod with just enough clearance to mount your tripod head to and bolt to a board. It's used for getting very low angles and still having the use of your pan head.
It's basically a mini tripod with just enough clearance to mount your tripod head to and bolt to a board. It's used for getting very low angles and still having the use of your pan head.
you can't go wrong with the new bogen 529
it is less than $200
then you just buy the center handle and that is like $25-30
then put it on top of a hi-hat board from overland.
i got two board from him and he was nice enough to pre-drill them for the bogen since he has one as well.
on my last short film i was surpised how often the hi-hat wound up being the perfect tool for the job.
you take the hi-hat mounted to the board and throw a couple of sand bags around the edges and you have a rock solid platform.
i was able to do pans and the camera didn't even budge.
i highly recommend the bogen. it came out just when i was doing research on hi-hats and it is amazing how expensive all of the other ones are.
i may buy a second one just because i like the first one so much so i won't have to worry about bogen ever stopping production. i like it that much and it is so affordable.
matthew
it is less than $200
then you just buy the center handle and that is like $25-30
then put it on top of a hi-hat board from overland.
i got two board from him and he was nice enough to pre-drill them for the bogen since he has one as well.
on my last short film i was surpised how often the hi-hat wound up being the perfect tool for the job.
you take the hi-hat mounted to the board and throw a couple of sand bags around the edges and you have a rock solid platform.
i was able to do pans and the camera didn't even budge.
i highly recommend the bogen. it came out just when i was doing research on hi-hats and it is amazing how expensive all of the other ones are.
i may buy a second one just because i like the first one so much so i won't have to worry about bogen ever stopping production. i like it that much and it is so affordable.
matthew
Thanks for the plug!
We used the Bogen / Overland Hi-Hat Jr. Board combination extensively on our last show - it is another flexible alternative to placing your camera on a sandbag or CineSaddle (which is also great).
The 16" Jr. Board is great for a fully outfitted DVX, while the larger 18" board is more appropriate for a 35mm or HDCam set-up. We used fully accessorized CA900s on the Jr. with no trouble at all.
My only issue with the Bogen hi-hat after using it every day for the past eight weeks is the close proximity of the mounting holes to the bracket on the base of each leg. You really can only use 1-3/4"x5/16-18 socket cap bolts with the cramped Bogen set-up. Once it is mounted, there are no functionality issues whatever. It is a solid product at an amazing price.
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We used the Bogen / Overland Hi-Hat Jr. Board combination extensively on our last show - it is another flexible alternative to placing your camera on a sandbag or CineSaddle (which is also great).
The 16" Jr. Board is great for a fully outfitted DVX, while the larger 18" board is more appropriate for a 35mm or HDCam set-up. We used fully accessorized CA900s on the Jr. with no trouble at all.
My only issue with the Bogen hi-hat after using it every day for the past eight weeks is the close proximity of the mounting holes to the bracket on the base of each leg. You really can only use 1-3/4"x5/16-18 socket cap bolts with the cramped Bogen set-up. Once it is mounted, there are no functionality issues whatever. It is a solid product at an amazing price.
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QuickSloth
Active member
Thanks for the recomendation, I will check it out. It seems that everyone mounts high hats to boards. I shoot outdoors, and the ground is rarely level enough to lay a board flat. Is the board really necessary?
Sirius_Doggy
Veteran
You want to mount the high-hat on a board. If not, once the tripod head and camera is attached it becomes dangerously top heavy. It's not recommended that you NOT use a board.
GlassSidewalk
Active member
QuickSloth said:
A board is necessary for the reasons Sirius stated.
You've gotta use sand bags, use the board to help flatten the ground, secure it with some sand bags and you are good to go. Don't be afraid to use the board to help create a surface, I think Overlands board is 3/4 inch, you could beat off a small bear with that, be creative.. If you are on solid rock you can always use a sand bag to prop a corner up or whatever... just remember it is a good idea when using a high hat to always have someone spoting the camera, especially when on uneven ground....
Good luck and play safe...
Billy
A great example of how the hi-hat and board functions was illustrated last week at Darlington raceway when we were shooting beauty shots of the track. We needed a pan and pull reveal of the 25° turns 1 and 2 from the peak of the curve itself. It had to be a ground-effect, but we needed motion - so a sandbag or Cinesaddle was ruled out.
The Bogen and a hi-hat board was simply placed on the 25° surface and we were able to remove almost all of the pitch through the 100mm ball mount. We shot about six one-minute set-ups in less than fifteen minutes, from ground-level, the guard rail and the grass along the base of the turn. That's fast.
We placed our boards on golf-cart floors with a foot or sandbag for ballast for quick tracks and character leads. Just flip your pan-handles up and you've got full tripod functionality at 12" off the ground.
Everyone on the show was very impressed with the Bogen hi-hat (and our dead-sexy boards, of course!). With the exception of Mr. Steve Cardellini's bulletproof devices, I've never seen as much good engineering go into these critical filmmaking tools.
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The Bogen and a hi-hat board was simply placed on the 25° surface and we were able to remove almost all of the pitch through the 100mm ball mount. We shot about six one-minute set-ups in less than fifteen minutes, from ground-level, the guard rail and the grass along the base of the turn. That's fast.
We placed our boards on golf-cart floors with a foot or sandbag for ballast for quick tracks and character leads. Just flip your pan-handles up and you've got full tripod functionality at 12" off the ground.
Everyone on the show was very impressed with the Bogen hi-hat (and our dead-sexy boards, of course!). With the exception of Mr. Steve Cardellini's bulletproof devices, I've never seen as much good engineering go into these critical filmmaking tools.
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