Going Widescreen -- Help, it's moving...

ElementFilm

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Tricky question (aren't they all),
I shot in 24Pa using the "squeeze mode." I imported all my clips, made sure the checkbox for "anamorphic" was checked for each clip in the browser, then edited them on a sequence that was checked "anamorphic." Everything is fine, it's all anamorphic at this point... Here's where it gets tricky:
I shot with way too much head room, so I've been adjusting clips, bringing them up to alleviate some of the room. If you watch your footage on a tv or production monitor in 4x3 you can see that you actually do have more room on the clip in FCP than what plays on a standard tv (this is the existence of the tv safe area overlay). So, I found that you can move clips up 15 under the 'motion tab - center' and you won't loose the bottom or have to zoom the clip in to fill up the space. Where it gets tricky is that when you play back in anamorphic your lines start to move (your widescreen lines). I also noticed that if you do any manual zooms, which I love, with the motion tab that the lines move there as well. It's as if I need a matte over the whole picture that never moves. I think I found a solution to this but I want to make sure.
If I create a new sequence that is NOT set to anamorphic and make a FCP movie (non self-contained) and I put that anamorphic FCP movie into the non-anamorphic sequence it creates a letterbox. I can then crop this movie 3 on the top and 3 on the bottom and it seems to alleviate any movement of the lines. My question is this -- am I loosing quality? I know I'm kind of creating my own aspect ration as it's now a little smaller than 16x9, but the nice thing is I know no matter what tv I play this on it's gonna play widescreen (one of my tv's at home has this "16x9" button and sometimes 16x9 dvd's play in 4x3 till you hit this button or 2.35:1 play in 16x9 till you hit the button). There's a part of my that thinks putting it all in a 4x3 sequence (letterbox'd essentially) makes it universally watchable properly. But I want to make sure I'm not loosing anything, specifically cause I shot "squeeze" mode cause my early research indicated that was the way to go with "enhanced for 16x9" revolution. Am I loosing quality taking my anamorphic to this 4x3 sequence and essentially letterboxing? Is there another way to do it, to keep the widescreen lines from moving when you've moved a clip or digitally zoomed in on a clip?
Thanks...
 
You lose a lot of information this way.
Have you tried to crop the lines in the 16:9 sequence to get the aspect you want?

G
 
It appears that keeping it anamorphic works as well, don't know why I didn't do that in the first place. I Exported my anamorphic sequence as a FCP Movie (non self-contained), imported that and made sure it was checked 'anamporphic.' Made a new sequence that is also anamorphic, dropped it in & cropped 3 top / 3 bottom, and it works. Now when I use compressor or make a qt, should I use the "16x9" or "Widescreen" option? I'm assuming YES. And there's a way in DVD Studio Pro to make a 16x9 DVD correct... Gunleik, you're the best bro.
 
So in DVD Studio Pro I choose "pan scan & letterbox" in the track parameters -- but just for making a master tape copy off the timeline with a DigiBeta machine, how do I make sure that my anamorphic sequence is anamporhpic (or widescreen) on the tape? So, if it is projected at a festival it plays widescreen, in correct aspect ratio... THANKS
 
I have a friend who works at a post audio house. They've got a new G5 iMac w/ 250gb of internal HD and 2gb of Ram. They also have a digibeta machine and it appears to be running through an AJA box (there's a box next to the computer w/ component, etc...) and a rack mount Aja. Her boss seems to know how to use it all. I'm not sure if the AJA has SDI but I'm assuming it's all the bells and whistles. So, can I bring in my 250gb firewire 800 drive with the newly re-rendered Uncompressed 8 bit (high precision YUV selected -- you're teaching / I'm learning). Can I take that timeline (anamorphic) to the digibeta, and get it in anamorphic on the tape??? THANKS
 
Don't worry too much about the anamorphic issue. It's only a flag and the image containes the exact data of a 4:3 image. The ana thing only tells devices (usually screening devices) to stretch the images.

Render out an uncompressed or dvcpro 50 _uncropped_ file, put it on a FW disk and take that to your friend. She'll help you with the rest. You are safe with that kind of help.

I'll sleep now.

Hope your film is good! -;)

Good luck.

Gunleik
 
You can create a fixed matte for your clips by adding a slug on a video track above the clip, adding a "mask shape" filter to the slug, and adjusting the dimensions of the mask shape to whatever ratio you want your letterbox to be.
 
Sometimes (if not most times) it is the obvious answer that alludes you. I work with creating slugs all the time, don't know why I didn't think of this. Thanks Stas...
 
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