Going to try Premier Pro CS5. Is CS5.5 A must?
- Thread starter Erik Naso
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Kevin Monahan
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Yes, definitely update to 5.0.4, especially if you have an ATI card.
j1clark@ucsd.edu
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There are two items that I'm aware of in 5.5 that are not in 5. 1) the "Audition" Audio application. And 2), the ability to maintain multiple audio tracks moving back and forth between Audition and Premiere.
Where this is useful is to avoid having to mix down to a stereo track once the 'audio' work is done. Although one has to 'mix' the effects and audio processing before moving it over to Premiere, at least items that are in separate tracks... stay in separate tracks, so if you have to rework a track like 'dialog', it is more easily accessible...
Since I've only got a NAB demo of this feature, and hadn't really attempted significant 'multitrack' audio work... I don't know how well it all hangs together in reality... If you go to the Audio section, most will indicate Pro Tools is the audio work horse, at least in the US, and so using other means to move projects from the visual editor to the audio editor are the standard.
But if you're a 'one man' post house, doing your own work, this feature may be of benefit.
I have begun to trade between Premiere and After Effects, and that seems to 'work' for my needs, and is available in CS5.
CS5.5. also adds the warp stabilizer to After Effects and the ability to unlink multiple Video/Audio clips - which was rather tedious before.
We're currently coming up to speed on CS5.5 after trying and dismissing the FCPX 'upgrade to FCP7'. We can't wait for Apple to finish picking fluff from their navels while they figure out if they want to support the professional community any more. We need a native edit workflow that FCP7 doesn't provide and multicam that FCPX doesn't provide. That's not even mentioning the other stuff they left out!
So, here we are. There are so many hidden shortcuts it took a little time to come up to speed. I don't care for the Lynda.com tutorials on PPro which is a shame because all the other's I've watched are pretty good. If only Larry Jordan had done them instead of FCPX
We're currently coming up to speed on CS5.5 after trying and dismissing the FCPX 'upgrade to FCP7'. We can't wait for Apple to finish picking fluff from their navels while they figure out if they want to support the professional community any more. We need a native edit workflow that FCP7 doesn't provide and multicam that FCPX doesn't provide. That's not even mentioning the other stuff they left out!
So, here we are. There are so many hidden shortcuts it took a little time to come up to speed. I don't care for the Lynda.com tutorials on PPro which is a shame because all the other's I've watched are pretty good. If only Larry Jordan had done them instead of FCPX
Syncing them in a sequence is one thing, but missing from every version previous to 5.5 was the ability to sync them in the Source Monitor, where In/Out points are generally set before you add a clip to the sequence. That's new in 5.5
There are also additional effects accelerated with CUDA and improvements to AVCHD playback.
All in all, it's worth looking at, at least.
Erik Naso
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Thanks for all the comments. I went ahead and purchased the FCP to Adobe deal and boy am I glad I waited! Still learning but like what I see so far. The Lynda.com Premiere CS5 lessons are ok. I'm sure they are getting lots of plays now. Prores 4444 doesnt come in with alpha channel. That sucks and not sure how to fix that if I can.
Adobe TV has some good tutorials as well. Looking forward to a real world edit soon.
Adobe TV has some good tutorials as well. Looking forward to a real world edit soon.
I'm in the same boat. I'm giving CS5 a real good try this time around. It's been a week and I have to say I am surprised. I am really liking it and I amazed how cool it is to play native DSLR files.
The only hiccup I had was audio was repeating on the clip internally. After doing a google search I realized I needed the 5.0.4 update which I did and it fixed it. Everything plays back smoother too.
The only hiccup I had was audio was repeating on the clip internally. After doing a google search I realized I needed the 5.0.4 update which I did and it fixed it. Everything plays back smoother too.
I am transitioning to CS 5.5 from FCP7 as well. I've found this book quite helpful
"An Editor's Guide to Adobe Premiere Pro"
http://www.amazon.com/Editors-Guide-Adobe-Premiere-Pro/dp/0321773012/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
It assumes you know NLE's and the basics of editing and goes over the tool and how to mentally
map from either FCP or MediaComposer to Premiere Pro.
The DVD (included) has a lot of supplemental material and videos that are very helpful.
Also, if you were using PluralEyes on FCP, SingularSoftware is offering a 1/2 price cross-grade
through July 17th. See: http://www.singularsoftware.com/crossgrade.html
I found the Lynda.com tutorial didn't go deep enough into the more advanced features of
Premiere Pro and I had more questions than answers in some areas (like multicamera
editing and advanced features of Media Encoder, etc.).
jeff
"An Editor's Guide to Adobe Premiere Pro"
http://www.amazon.com/Editors-Guide-Adobe-Premiere-Pro/dp/0321773012/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
It assumes you know NLE's and the basics of editing and goes over the tool and how to mentally
map from either FCP or MediaComposer to Premiere Pro.
The DVD (included) has a lot of supplemental material and videos that are very helpful.
Also, if you were using PluralEyes on FCP, SingularSoftware is offering a 1/2 price cross-grade
through July 17th. See: http://www.singularsoftware.com/crossgrade.html
I found the Lynda.com tutorial didn't go deep enough into the more advanced features of
Premiere Pro and I had more questions than answers in some areas (like multicamera
editing and advanced features of Media Encoder, etc.).
jeff
j1clark@ucsd.edu
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I don't know, what's the 'compression' difference of say using TIFF output, with lossless LZW compression, vs. ProRes 4444??? Or just buying more disks and going with the uncompressed animation codec, which has a alpha channel.
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but I've found the trial version of cs5.5 to be substantially more sluggish when scrubbing AVCHD footage. It renders faster, but scrubbing in the source window or the timeline is quite a bit clunkier.
This is both with the software and hardware mercury playback engine.
This is both with the software and hardware mercury playback engine.
Erik Naso
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Since I am coming over from FCP7 almost all my footage is ProRes. All the titles I make in Motion are exported as ProRes 4444 with alpha channel. It just works better in FCP7. I didn't try it in CS5.5 yet so maybe it works now with the update.
j1clark@ucsd.edu
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Since I don't use ProRes, did use PR422 for short while before CS5, and used the JES conversion tool to convert from AVCHD, I'm not familiar with how alpha channels are dealt with. When I do something in After Effects, and exported it I'd use the animation codec, and enable the alpha channel option.
I'm a little surprised that it doesn't just 'work', as I thought the way that 'everyone' accessed Quicktime files was via the QT libraries, and so if ProRes had a alpha channel, it would have been processed like any other MOV with an alpha channel.