-Go35 Beta Unit Review-

Ill Eagle

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This is my review of the Go35 Beta Unit. For one, I have shot on film, both 35mm & Super35mm & 16mm. I have used and owned several 35mm lens adapters including the infamous Mini35 to homemade solutions. I must say that my first impression after taking it out of the box was it's not so Beta looking exterior. I very much like the black finish as it matches the rest of my gear. First thing, it is plug & play & light though I wouldn't recommend using any lens larger than a 50mm without rails. After adjusting the manual focus & zoom, I was ready to do some simple tests.

I really found the settings for the DVX100a for me was best set at MF31 &Z65. After a few 'round the house tests, I took it for a spin outside around some urban areas and the infamous inanimate object test that plagues us 35mm adapter owners (blades of grass, gates, tree's, etc.....). As far as sharpness & color goes, I didn't find any problems, basically it's as sharp as you set it and the way it handles colors are as vibrant or as mute as you set them. I prefer to always shoot mute & bring out whatever color's I need in post, and also it just works better with Magic Bullet in my opinion.

Now, what everyone wants to hear about and has been the new standard in how an adapter is judged nowadays. GRAIN & BOKEH. As far as grain, it really depends on how your scene is lit. My biggest issue was dust rather than grain, which is easy to control with simple cleaning (compressed air) before shooting. I'm not gonna say the adapter is grainless but I found that during the couple shoots I've used it in so far, it's nearly invisible during inside shots, with proper lighting you really have to look for it. In all I would say it loses about 1.5-2 stops. I was able to shoot indoors with NO extra lights than natural light coming through the shades & could shoot 1/250 shutter and still have a decent image (nothing serious shooting).

With outside shots, it sometimes shows up in white areas, but only in certain weather situations. The difference between an overcast day & a sunny day were "grainy" to "what's grain??" I also noticed just like with a few other adapters, the lens could also affect the grain?? I'm no expert but my 300mm lens grain was more noticable than my 50mm lens. As far as grain, it's a static adapter so don't expect a miracle, but it also is up to your lighting & framing skills. Even the Guerilla35 has grain.

BOKEH. Bokeh has become my new found love as far as adapters go. This adapter renders bokeh excellently. When the lens is wide open, the bokeh makes out of focus lights small circles. I even did a side by side comparison to Batman Begin's & they both render out of focus lights the same way. Stopping down the iris even once on any of my lens turned the out of focus lights from small circles to small or large polygon shaped lights, which was beautiful. Plus, I don't notice any more CA than the DVX100a has by itself.

I was skeptical about the bokeh at first, but when I used the adapter myself, all I can say is the GG renders it properly. Also, the best thing I liked is some adapters are notorious for giving you DOF outside, but inside it still looks like flat video. Not this adapter, not even close, my inside shots were just as shallow as my outside shots.

I would like to say that these images are very crisp and sharp, the only reason any of them look the way they do is due to my crappy compressor on my extremely weak laptop. All of these shots are grainless, anything you see is due to compression. The dust is actually a dirty spot on my car and anything else I can't explain but these shots had a very clean GG. The vignetting is due to my lack of zoom, nothing to do with the adapter. There is no hotspot, anything that looks like one is simply a shadow, this adapter surprisingly has no hotspot.

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This was done with nothing but natural light coming through the shades. Nikon 50mm 1.8 @1.8 1/250th Shutter.

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This is inside my garage. Nikon 50mm 1.8 @1.8 1/250th Shutter ND 1/8th.

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Another garage shot. Same setting as above.

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Her again with only light coming through the shades, of course, there's a window about 10 feet in front of her too. Nikon 50mm 1.8 @1.8 1/250th Shutter.

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You can see the reflection of the light on the gate is clearly a polygon, good bokeh rendering. I wasn't trying to have anything in focus, just showing the bokeh rendering. Nikkor 105mm @2.5 1/48th Shutter ND 1/64th.

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The crap mobile. Around 6-7pm on a very overcast day. The dirt spots are actually on the car. I know I need it washed. :( Nikon 50mm 1.8 @1.8 1/48th ND 1/8th.

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Shot in the car about 5 minutes later. Same setting as above.

CONCLUSION. Right now this is my favorite piece of gear, using it with a dolly is a pain in the ass at first but I finally got the hang of it. This adapter gives you the long sought shallow depth of field (extremely shallow) and bokeh you could ever want without stepping up to a moving GG. I will be using this adapter for a very long time & it has replaced my previous adapters (including 2 moving ones). I've had shoots with 3 different clients in the last week and have used the adapter and it blew them away as it has also done me.

This was the best investment I've made since purchasing my DVX100a and I can't imagine how much better the production model could be. Especially for the price.......
 
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Excelent review, Eagle. It makes me feel like testing its' HD version with the moving mechanism. It would be great if you could post the footage that originated these grabs.
 
Yeah, post some footage! :D

I really appreciate the review Ill Eagle.

As an aside, I would say that the grain you're seeing with a 300mm lens vs. the 50, would most likely come from the fact that it's a slower lens. Most 300mm lenses run in the range of minimum f/2.8-3.5, others are even slower at f/4.5. Your 50mm, at f/1.8 brings in something in the order of 4 to 6 times the amount of light at max aperture! At similar apertures, f/2.8-4.0, either lens would require a good bit of light to resolve the image without grain, where "good bit" means a very sunny day (which is why Hollywood is in California :) ), or film level lighting.

WRT vignetting, I just want to throw a few numbers out there:

The adapter your reviewed has a larger focus area on the GG than did the one I played with for months. It is still not 100% 36mmx24mm frame -- it is in fact 92.46% this size (originally was 85.53%). At 90-100%, you will begin to see vignetting on any adapter, because every 35mm lens exhibits a certain amount of vignetting, especially at higher f stops. Nikon has done a better job than Canon dealing with this, but I just wanted to chime in that it's impossible to get rid of vignetting entirely.

Otherwise, I'm glad you're happy with the bokeh and am eager to see how the adapter renders images given properly disciplined lighting/shooting. There are a few other people playing with this same unit right now and I'm waiting on their productions to start rolling out the footage, but it should be real soon now that you'll all get to see for yourselves.
 
Here are a few stills from another shooter and his DVC30 / Canon 55mm f/1.4 lens that show off the bokeh rendering:

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In the above shots, the exterior was a sunny day at f/2.0-4.0, and the interior was illuminated by a single 500w halogen with the lens at f/1.4.

He has interior tests done with a person posing in front of a three point setup (all 500w halogens) at f/2.0 that look amazing -- great skin detail, excellent tonality -- but I can't show them yet. I'll try to arrange something similar here with a model...
 
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OK, those are my pics then.

If I may correct you there, Jim: the lens used I used there is actually a 55mm f1,4 Ricoh (M42) lens, which I used with a Canon FD-M42 adapter.

Ill have to agree with Eagle about everything he said there. I have never used a Guerilla35 beta but I think this one is very close (or even a excat match) to the footage seen from it. If there are still some people out there waiting for G35 because of the beautiful footage shot by MacGregor and Norm Li for example, they should take a look at Go35Pro. This is of course just my opinion. Would be interesting to get one of these to the hands of somebody who has tested the static G35.

Ill try to shoot something more filmic than these run&gun pics there.
 
That's how I felt :D

Since I haven't said it already, a big thanks to Mikko for the pics. And before anyone asks for this footage, know that there is a flaw in the diffuser Mikko has, and I'm replacing it as I type this... so Mikko footage will have to wait a week.

- jim
 
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These all look softer and more grainy than other adapters, the DVX stretch mode isnt helping either.



ash =o)
 
It should be noted that my footage isn't shot with DVX but with the DVC30 and its frame mode. Plus I shot everything with detail set to -5.

When it comes to resolution loss, I haven't noticed any compared to stock DVC30 footage.
 
AshG said:
These all look softer and more grainy than other adapters, the DVX stretch mode isnt helping either.

ash =o)

I said my crappy compressor took away a lot of the image, also I set my detail to -7 for editing purposes. You're not seeing grain in any of my images, there isn't any grain in those pics I don't know what you're looking at.......
 
AshG said:
These all look softer and more grainy than other adapters, the DVX stretch mode isnt helping either.
I'm willing to put my rep on the line and say you're mistaken. Any inherent "softness" of these images stems from focus and focal length issues of the SLR lens, not a lack of clarity on the part of the GG. When you say "other adapters" -- are you speaking of other sub $1,000 adapters and if so, which models are you thinking of specifically?
 
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I'll third that one. I've seen footage from bklyndv's adaptor on a big TV and it really did look great. I don't think the adaptor gg is the issue.
 
For the Doubting Thomas's who complain of sharpness and grain, two huge files. I shot these yesterday since the heatwave finally broke, and my girlfriend and I tried to get rid of some things in a yard sale. Lots of time outside, so I figured I'd shoot with what is now the official Go35Pro design -- just under four inches long, all internalized, one piece. Simply screw it onto your cam with the appropriate step ring, get some rails if you've got a big lens, and you're done.

These are all with my dusty Canon GL1 (which I almost got rid of in the sale... ), and an even dustier Nikon 50mm f/1.4. The SLR lens was set at f/4.0 for every shot -- I simply adjusted the exposure of with the GL1's exposure dial.

Nothing done to the images but the flip. Both clips are full NTSC .avi, progressive (shot in frame mode), without sound. My only regret is not getting that Varizoom monitor to shoot with -- it's bad enough trying to get decent-ish framing while under direct sunlight, it's almost impossible to get proper focus!

Get them now because I will delete/move them soon. Of course, please right-click:

Human 267mb

Objects-Bokeh 311mb
 
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