Getting started with two 650s...I'd love your input

MatthewC

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I just got myself two 650's in the mail from another DVXUser.
I wanted to fool around yesterday and shot myself some quick footage in the form of this: http://www.splatfilms.com/flvplayer.html

Now, a few thoughts.
I lost my 5-in-1 bounce, making things harder than they should be.
The apartment I've been testing in has all white walls, so I'm finding that the other side of the face is pretty constantly lit anyways, even if shooting from one side at a 45 degree angle.

Now, I've been trying to setup a kicker or backlight using various coloured gels. I can get a nice blue ring over the top of the person, but I need some black foil wrap to control it, as it tends to still get all over the place. A few scrims would be great.

I've been trying to colour things, BUT, the apartment being so small I'm backing the lights up so they don't blind the actors. This leads to the coloured gels not turning up so bright on the walls/actors, because of the distance between them. I'm going to have to pick up a 300w for closer shots so the lights aren't overpowering, but the colours are still fairly bright.

If anyone has any suggestions for trying to light with two 650s, and tips on using gels so the colours are brighter than what I'm getting, or having a kicker work more effectively as a 650, without the light overpowering everything else, I would love any input. I'm just getting started and I'm still in the testing faze, but any inputs or thoughts from users about getting started in lighting with powerful lights such as these would be great. Camera tricks, etc.





Feel free to check out the short clip I did yesterday (http://www.splatfilms.com/flvplayer.html) . My major complaint about it is the actor on the floor doesn't quite have enough light, BUT I can't pull a 650 over and try to light him without it overpowering that half of the room. It would've been great to have a table lamp off in the corner as a practical but lack of table lamps sort of hampered that, lol. The shadow being cast by the only 650 I had going changes between the first and second shot, as my actor leaned forward.
Now that shadow though is very hard, I should have tried to soften it a bit, or is a hard shadow okay like that as long as it makes sense, IE, the only light coming from offscreen left? It's distracting to my eye, but not having a smaller light to get rid of it sort of pisses me off.


Looking forward to your thoughts!
 
Well Matt, it seems you have gotten yourself into somewhat of a tricky situation, in terms of gear VS location. After reading your post, a few quick possibilities came up.

Whats the size of the apartment you have to work with? Is it possible to move to another place? A 650 is nice, especially with the right diffusion! However, in such a small place, you are going to be limited to what you can do. Thats where creativity comes into play.

What is the scenes details? Daytime? Is it possible to top light it with a diffused 650, and then use the other as a motivated source from the window, also with diffusion to avoid those harsh shadows...

Test some of those out and see if it doesnt help you out a bit. Good luck!
 
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