Getting Free Actors

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the standard no pay line in nyc is 'no pay but food/transportation/copy provided'. also, be sure to state 'non-union' if that's the case.

recently, i posted an ad in backstage, listing a tag line for my film, 3 very short character descriptions, as well as stating that it would be a no-budget / no-pay 10-15 minute dv short: i received about 400 paper headshots AND about 350 email headshots. from that, we called about 80 for auditions but only 60 showed up. i was amazed at the talent that walked through the door - of course there were a couple of duds as well as crazies (this is nyc), but overall, i was amazed. just like us, the great acting talents of tomorrow have to start somewhere. we're all in this together.

here's my two cents on auditioning as well as shooting a no-budget film.

- make the actors comfortable by, like johnnymac said, being organized - it makes you look professional and you don't necessarily need money to be organized. and don't have a room full of people standing around during auditions; it's a nerve racking experience for actors, especially if they're just starting, so make it as easy as possible. i auditioned actors with myself (director), my producer/co-writer and a friend who fed lines. and rent a third party space for auditions; going to someone's home can seem very sketchy.

- sending out sides is key. when extracting a scene from your script, i find it best to simplify it as much as possible, which can mean changing/dropping dialogue and action cues while still retaining some important information about the character. essentially, you want to make it to read as a stand alone scene. for this last film of mine, our lead character happened to have almost no lines, so we made up sides for his character - how would this character react in a situation where he had to talk? and i'd agree that the improv approach should only be used in special situations (maybe a specific type of comedy?); it usually provides for undesirable/uninformative results.

- this is a personal choice and probably one more suited for shorts than for features, but i don't give out any more back story than what i work into a side (which is minimal at best). i like this approach because it's such a great learning experience for me as the director/writer to SEE/HEAR a fresh perspective on the characters, situations, dialogue, etc. before an actor reading this freaks out, on this last film, i picked an actress who initially took the part in almost the exact opposite direction as how we imagined her. she was just great, and we could see that despite how she took the character. the key with this approach is to keep an open mind and not just look for the actor that was able to read your mind and go with the character exactly as how you imagined. that would be unfair.

- FILM the auditions. this is very important because some actors have a lot of charisma that comes off in person but not on film. likewise, some people who seem aloof in person, glow on camera (they are actors after all). you'll be amazed at how different your reactions may be to different actors once you get home and review tape. (during auditions, don't fuss with the camera too much, but do try to get some long shots for body language and some close-ups for facial expressions).

- obviously you want good actors, but it's also important that you can work with them (this goes for crew as well). i've been on a couple of shoots where an as-yet-to-be-successful actor turns out to be a prima donna and it just makes it impossible for the director to get what they want, as well as making the set an un-fun place to be.
i worked with one actor who as a child was in a film with meryl streep; he said she was the nicest person in the world - she knew everyone's name from director down to the p.a.s and would even help carry some stuff around!
despite how big a place nyc can seem, even here it's an amazingly small world, and what goes around comes around. johnny mac is right, thank you notes are much appreciated; after all, imagine all the time actors put into headshots, auditions, call backs... all for parts they will most likely not get. also some of the actors that weren't right for this project may be perfect for you next one.

- feed them well. an extra couple of bucks per day on getting something better than pizza will go a long way with making cast / crew very happy - don't forget, on a no budget / no pay shoot, they're all essentially working for food (and experience of course). and be sure to make a schedule (start/lunch/dinner/stop) and stick to it. making people work through extreme hunger / tiredness is counter productive.

good luck and keep us posted.
 
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xopoe said something I think is very important. You defiantly should tape the auditions and whenever possible, have someone else to read the sides with the actor.

I never really understood the difference between a real life persona and a screen persona until I was able to see it for myself. Sure there are occasionally some people who are dull in life and sparkle on film (read Deniro), but what's more unsettling is when you have someone who absolutely charms you in your meeting, then disappears on the playbacks. You may think that you're a good judge of a persons acting, but when you're in the room with them you have so much more personally invested in their performance and that ends up tainting your ability to appraise their skill.

I didn't think there could be much difference until I saw the proof with my own eyes.
 
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As others have said, one of the most important things to do for an actor is to make sure they get their finished copy of your project. Keep in touch with them, inform them of any festivals it's being submitted to and any changes in titling that have come along.

I know too many actors who have done student films starting out, and very few of them ever received copies of the finished products. While some student directors seem to be less reliable then others (cough*NYFA*cough), it's a general problem inherent to all film school projects. Even if you never get around to finishing your film, you should provide your actor with raw footage of their performances for their reel.

Remember, they're helping you with your resume at the beginning of your career, karma demands that you do everything you can to help them with theirs.
 
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I had an audition recently which I thought went pretty well. I didn't have a completed script so I just came up with some quick monologues for my three main characters plus a paragraph or two describing their personality and relationship to each other.

After each actor would read the monologue I proceeded to interview them as if they were that character asking questions like "Why do you hate so-and-so so much" or "What made you decide to become a dominatrix?". That kind of thing. I was really impressed with how some actors just fell into instantly. You could practically see the switch go off in their eyes.

As far as getting free actors, you definitely have to remember the three F's (Food, Fun and a Fantastic DVD!). And don't forget the importance of a great wrap party! I find a cookout is always a hit especially if it's in conjuction with a screening of the finished film!
 
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Yowza...I leave for a couple weeks and I've got a trillion posts to catch up on!

Good points said by all!
 
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If your not going to pay them, at least provide FOOD for them. The last thing you want on a set is grumpy actors complaining all the time. With that said, you should look for actors that have a burning desire to act. That should weed out some of the bad apples.
 
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Who needs film school... No one!

Thanks to all of you guys, the advice you gave me helped me alot.

I've started meeting actors this week and will continue to do so till the end of the week. I gave them the script and character info. Starting next week... Audition time! Can't wait.
 
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Another good resource for posting ads is Mandy.com. We posted all of our ads there for my first film. We've got piles of headshots from it.

From experience with both "cold" and, uh... i guess "warm" auditions, I have to say honestly that warm is better. Just be sure to give the director some direction on their second run-through to make sure they're acting and not just giving you a set performance of specific line readings that won't ever change regardless of how much direction you give them.

One last thing I'd suggest to look for during your auditions, especially since it's a no-pay experience (like all of mine); try the best you can to gauge the actor's temperament and personality. Actors that are respectful and professional can make the experience 1000000 times better. In fact, the same goes for any crew members. All it takes is one jack-ass on your set (I've met a few) to really bring the whole thing down.

Best of luck. Sorry to hear that people beat you down about it a few years ago. Some people are put-off by ambition because they don't have as much as you. I was 18 on my first film. Most of the people I worked with were a decade older than me (I was ALWAYS the youngest person there). It was intimidating. But if you do your homework, it won't matter. People will see that you know what you're doing and they'll respect you for that, not your age.
 
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Giving good feedback and letting the actor live the part from their POV is key for an actor. The words on the script isn't important as having them live thru their actions. And watching them the first few minutes you will get a good sense of where they are at. Just make sure that the person reading the other part is not somewhere else in their heads. I've read for a lot casting directors here in LA and the one thing I find very irritating is the other person your working off of is not connected to what they are doing. Getting a good feeder will really help out your casting. I had one reader who jumped lines once to a point that I had to work off of what he just said and it was troublesome. Needless to say I got the part but I'm sure the director and producers at that table felt like amateurs. Especially when this was for a pilot on NBC and the studio heads were sitting right behind them.
 
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Smithy is absolutely right -- a good reader is an actor's dream, and most of the time we don't get them. I had a horrible experience with a reader recently that, luckily, didn't hold me back and I made it all the way to the director (I had a great audition with him too, but wasn't cast because I looked too much like the opposing character [Bruce Davison]).

The point is that acting is living -- I think it was Meisner that said, "Acting is living truthfully under the imaginary circumstances of the script." (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that quote) That's very hard to do when the reader is crap because the actor's ingrained response is to behave to the stimulous given -- and if the reader is way off the script (or just dull as sh*t) you can't do this, you've got to be true to the intent of the script to have a chance at landing the part.

Take Smithy's advice: get a good reader. You'll be happy you did.
 
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So now when I have choosen the actors what do I tell them...
I mean I know what to tell them, but in a professional way..

For the actors that got the part... congratulations you got the part of *insert character name*

For the actors that didn't get any parts... what to say?

There's been a lot of great actors that didn't get parts, and I wish some of them did, it was hard decision, but had to be made.

How do I let them know?
 
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Tell them exactly what you're thinking. Be honest with them - if they didn't get the part because they weren't right in the part, say so. They'll most likely understand that the problem isn't their acting abilities, more so how they fit into the specific role. Explain that, and they'll most likely be fine (and willing to audition for you in the future!)
 
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[quote author=Woodson link=board=Directing;num=1087969706;start=0#10 date=06/23/04 at 21:56:40]JonnyMac...

Another question concerning auditions,

How do you guys do your auditions? What steps do you take?

Do the actors improv stuff for you, do they read your script?

And also for the actors, tell us about your experiences with auditions?

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I usually create "sides": short scripts that the actors can read from in the audition. My personal taste is to do really whacky stuff for the sides, not even stuff in the script, because I like to throw those auditioning unexpected stuff and see how they handle it (100% of my stuff is comedy, so this is another reason I do it). It also allows me to see how much personality these actors have.

I have never once asked actors for monologues. I like creating sides so I can better control what I need to see from an actor for a role.

I require headshots and resumes because it allows me to keep track of actors...its something I can take notes on that can easily be matched up with a visual. If an actor does not bring a headshot and resume I am thoroughly unimpressed.

I think its extremely important to make my auditions as professional as possible, but fun. I always have a casting assistant, my casting director, writer and director at the audition. I need all these people to have a useful audition that is professional.

Hope this helps! Good luck!
 
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Since most of us are not using casting agencies or agents, here is the way I prefer to do it. I get the word out by email lists, Mandy.com , postings to actors groups, local theatre, etc and I first filter the headshots to who we want to talk to, then a phone call to be sure they understand the conditions, such as pay, no pay, etc. Next, have them come in for an interview rather than audition to get to see them, talk a bit, decide if they are people you can work with. From this, select your best candidates for a taped audition, sending backstory and side to them. Sometimes you may think a person is better suited to a part different from the one they are seeking. Above all, be respectful and thank them for coming in.
 
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Put up a sign that says FREE FOOD and I'll bet you'll get lots of actors. Prime Ribbs and steak perferbaly
 
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Yes, if there is no pay, feed them well and at least have descent craft services.
 
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