From which angles i should shot a concert?

[alapimba]

Hello,

I have been shooting a few concerts for a friend band but i'm not 100% happy with the result yet.
I'm not a professional so i have no background at all about how to film so i'd like your help. I'm filming alone, i have been filming with only one camera but this last time i tried to film with 2.
I'm filming with iphones so theres no zoom to be usable, so if you could give me tips with the consideration that the cameras will allways be iphones and no zoom i would be happy.

Tips like from where should i shot, where the static cam should be and with what kind of plan, in case that i'm very above the band how to make a decent shot when in my eyes line i only see speakers and stuff like that...

Tell me everything you can to improve.

Here is a few videos, 3 with only 1 camera and 1 video with 2 cameras.

Thanks

 

[paulears]

Realistically, they're always going to look like all the other 'bootleg' style videos on ebay. Although the pictures are acceptable, the constant image shake and horrible sound mean that even with better angles it's not going to be much more than it is. All you need to do is watch any DVD of the bigger names to see a frontal shot from about the same height or above that of the lead singer/musician is vital. Your venue mean getting an iPhone in that position would be impossible - so what you ask won't work, without all the things that go with 'real' cameras - zoom lenses, proper audio, better handling of the highlights. What you have isn't bad, for a iPhone image.

 

[alapimba]

Realistically, they're always going to look like all the other 'bootleg' style videos on ebay. Although the pictures are acceptable, the constant image shake and horrible sound mean that even with better angles it's not going to be much more than it is. All you need to do is watch any DVD of the bigger names to see a frontal shot from about the same height or above that of the lead singer/musician is vital. Your venue mean getting an iPhone in that position would be impossible - so what you ask won't work, without all the things that go with 'real' cameras - zoom lenses, proper audio, better handling of the highlights. What you have isn't bad, for a iPhone image.

About the audio i'm planning to in the future record it from the sound table so that issue will be fixed.
About the videos again, obvious i can't expect to have with 2 iphones what professionals have with 5 6 7 cameras but well i bet i can make this a little better than what i have done with the correct orientation.

Lets focus on the last video where i shot with 2 iphones. I had the fixed iphone pointed to the 2 girls. And the other one with me trying to tape everybody in the front and when jumping from one member to other i tried to make a fade with the fixed camera shot to give the idea of many angles.
I'd like advice on this area... the fixed iphone should be where and filming what? filming the whole band? fixed at the lead singer? if fixed at the lead singer should be pointed to the head? half body? advices like this would be good.

THanks

 

[steve4505]

About the audio i'm planning to in the future record it from the sound table so that issue will be fixed.
About the videos again, obvious i can't expect to have with 2 iphones what professionals have with 5 6 7 cameras but well i bet i can make this a little better than what i have done with the correct orientation.

Lets focus on the last video where i shot with 2 iphones. I had the fixed iphone pointed to the 2 girls. And the other one with me trying to tape everybody in the front and when jumping from one member to other i tried to make a fade with the fixed camera shot to give the idea of many angles.
I'd like advice on this area... the fixed iphone should be where and filming what? filming the whole band? fixed at the lead singer? if fixed at the lead singer should be pointed to the head? half body? advices like this would be good.

THanks

You are working with the wrong tools for the job if you want it to look even somewhat pro quality using iPhones. Like someone mentioned above, you need to look carefully at most anything recorded professionally and the differences should be obvious. Working with just 2 cameras that are not even "real" (built in zoom which stays in focus) video cameras is just about impossible to make a live concert look good. A live concert can be filmed with 3 video cameras, but every one of the camera ops will be constantly framing for a static/tilt/pan/zoom/etc. in a new show while another camera is live. For instance just on the lead singer there usually will vary from a super close up, close-up, medium and head to toe shot, now think all the instruments, wide angles, crowd shots, tilts, pans, zooms, dutch and other motions have you have an large amount of different shots which all add to the overall video experience. I could see like 5+ iPhones maybe being able to make a decent live concert video, but I sure would not want to be the editor of that one. Pros will be using stabilizers (tripods/jibs/stedicams) for most of the shots too. Another problem you would be working against is lighting. Concert lighting can be inconsistent and iris adjustment on the fly may be necessary.