FOSTEX FR-2 @ 23.976 Timebase NAtive?

LighthouseMedia

LighthouseMedia

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Okay I'm a little confused ya'll I'm looking at the FR-2 as a sync sound recorder but I'll be recording in 720/24PN so I need to make sure it will record 23.976 natively without the added TC card. In reading the description I'm unclear as to whether I can do that or if I can only do that with the add on card. If I can't how do people feel about Tascam's HD-P2 recorder I know its a little less rugged which is why I 'm looking at the FR-2 so hopefully you guys can help me out here. Or so I need the timebase the same I assumed it did a little help would be nice.
 
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the fr-2 will not record tc with out tc card , if you run regulary , you will need to slate each take and sync it later on nle .
 
Okay I was planning to sync it with slate anyways so here is my question though if my video is 23.976, and I'm editing in a 23.976 timeline, will my audio slip out of sync if I put it in that timeline and it isn't recorded using the same timebase as the video? (editing with FCP)
 
yes if they clocks drift ,
no- probably you will be good for every take since you dont run 2 hours ones .
buy a tc card and save the hassle of the slating
 
Yeah, all but the very top end professional camera (and the Canon HDV cam) are lacking Gen lock so you will see drift even if you jam the TC. Two clocks, two different times.

But as Oleg said, you are not likely to see a drift in any take that is less then 10 to 20 minutes. Assuming everything is working properly that would be worse case scenerio.

Cheers
 
I haven't found a way to jam the FR-2 with the HVX's timecode (I don't have a Laird adapter...yet) or vice versa, so that leaves time-of-day and slate synching anyway...I'm not sure the FR-2 timecode card is worth it unless you have TC in a standard format from some source or the Laird firewire adapter.
 
The HVX does not jam TC (cross your fingers that the HVX300 or whatever will). You can record the TC signal on one of the audio channels and use that to sync up in post but I would still slate if you went that route.

Cheers
 
What everyone else above said, and one addition. You said the Tascam is not as rugged as the Fostex. I'm wondering where you heard that. I believe (from actual use) the Tascam is very rugged. The outer shell is plastic, but very tightly built. Sorry I'm a bit off topic here, but I'm tired of hearing people that have never used the Tascam say it isn't rugged enough. It is no less rugged than their earlier DAT model, which was a standard for non-tc work in DAT.

Phil
 
BUT...
IF the recorder can set the time base to record in 23.976 identical to the HVX then there should be NO drift correct? I would want the TImecode option not to jam the camera but to provide the needed option to record at the correct timebase that way there would be no drift. Also would use it to export TC to Denke Slate for Music video production etc... I'm more interested in learning about actual timebase rather than jamming, I understand jamming and syncing but I'm going to slate everything anyways I'm more interested in making sure I have no major TimeBASE errors that make syncing problematic...
 
SO how do you feel the tascam would compare to the Fostex I know they have the correct TImebase clocks built in, is there a way to do TC out to a smart slate? What are the pre-amps and recording quality on the tascam like, I'm very interested in this unit as well?
 
LighthouseMedia said:
BUT...
IF the recorder can set the time base to record in 23.976 identical to the HVX then there should be NO drift correct?
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No, jamming TC just sets the clocks to same time. If you and I sync our wrist watches they will match for a period of time but will drift with time. This is what will happen with your audio and video unless u genlock them so they are running as one (master and slave).

Again, the drift is generally small and won't effect short takes.

cheers
 
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