zapmeister
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Hi,
I suspect the answer is in this forum somewhere but I've been looking around for the best part of an hour and haven't been able to find it, and so if I'm establishing a redundant thread please accept my apologies and direct me to one that covers my issue.
My workflow into FCP 7/Studio 3:
1. HPX170 User.. shooting 1080 24pA.
2. Ingest files from P2 cards via P2 Card reader onto external drives using MacPro (OS10.6.8) workstation using Panasonic's P2CMS
3. To avoid Log & Transfer and the creation of redundant massive scratch data, I apply Raylight v3 to:
(a) re-wrap .MXFs into .MOV alias pointing to the original MXFs in sub-folder "Contents" and
(b) remove the 2:3:3:2 pulldown
4. Import the .MOV alias files into a Clip Bin in FCP
5. Use the FCP easy setup to create the recommended sequence for 24pA footage which in the FCP browser cites properties for that sequence as having (i) a video rate of 23.98 fps (ii) compressor setting of DVCPRO HD 1080p 30 and (i) Pixel Aspect of HD 1280x1080,
6. I attempt to drag the clips into that sequence.
And here is where I see a potential problem:
When I try to drag the clip into that timeline it says there is a mismatch--that the clip does not match the preset and I have the option to change the sequence setting to match the clip settings or not. FCP advises that one change the sequence to match the clip property, and so if I opt to change that sequence setting, when I look at the sequence specs the one thing that has changed is that now the sequence setting is DVCPRO HD 1080i60 rather than DVCPRO HD 1080p 30. That is, it appears from this that despite having checked the box in Raylight to remove the 2:3:3:2 pulldown, this has failed and clip is still interlaced over 60. And indeed when one looks at the clip properties the clip is identified as DVCPRO HD 1080i60.
To check this hypothesis, I have tried doing an L&T of the same footage checking the remove pulldown box in the drop-down menu in the L&T interface and then dragging that clip into the recommend sequence for 24pA, and the same mismatch warning occurs.
Some key anecdotal observations for which I'm uncertain of the significance:
1. I cannot perceive much difference in how the footage plays whether I convert the sequence to match the clip as per the above workflow (as FCP recommends) or conversely elect to force the clip into the FCP recommended sequence for 24pA footage
2. footage viewed in the P2CMS Previewer (prior to pulldown removal) does appear to my realtively untrained eye as more interlaced (though not terribly so) than that viewed in FCP in either case immediately above
3. Though the image of the 1080 footage is larger, that 1080 footage does not look as clean 720 pN (24p) footage shot with that same camera
What am I doing wrong and what do I do to get the pulldown properly removed and make my 1080pA shot footage progressive?
Or has it been done and is there something fundamental I'm not correctly understanding?
And why does the 1080 footage not look as clean as the 720 footage?
I suspect the answer is in this forum somewhere but I've been looking around for the best part of an hour and haven't been able to find it, and so if I'm establishing a redundant thread please accept my apologies and direct me to one that covers my issue.
My workflow into FCP 7/Studio 3:
1. HPX170 User.. shooting 1080 24pA.
2. Ingest files from P2 cards via P2 Card reader onto external drives using MacPro (OS10.6.8) workstation using Panasonic's P2CMS
3. To avoid Log & Transfer and the creation of redundant massive scratch data, I apply Raylight v3 to:
(a) re-wrap .MXFs into .MOV alias pointing to the original MXFs in sub-folder "Contents" and
(b) remove the 2:3:3:2 pulldown
4. Import the .MOV alias files into a Clip Bin in FCP
5. Use the FCP easy setup to create the recommended sequence for 24pA footage which in the FCP browser cites properties for that sequence as having (i) a video rate of 23.98 fps (ii) compressor setting of DVCPRO HD 1080p 30 and (i) Pixel Aspect of HD 1280x1080,
6. I attempt to drag the clips into that sequence.
And here is where I see a potential problem:
When I try to drag the clip into that timeline it says there is a mismatch--that the clip does not match the preset and I have the option to change the sequence setting to match the clip settings or not. FCP advises that one change the sequence to match the clip property, and so if I opt to change that sequence setting, when I look at the sequence specs the one thing that has changed is that now the sequence setting is DVCPRO HD 1080i60 rather than DVCPRO HD 1080p 30. That is, it appears from this that despite having checked the box in Raylight to remove the 2:3:3:2 pulldown, this has failed and clip is still interlaced over 60. And indeed when one looks at the clip properties the clip is identified as DVCPRO HD 1080i60.
To check this hypothesis, I have tried doing an L&T of the same footage checking the remove pulldown box in the drop-down menu in the L&T interface and then dragging that clip into the recommend sequence for 24pA, and the same mismatch warning occurs.
Some key anecdotal observations for which I'm uncertain of the significance:
1. I cannot perceive much difference in how the footage plays whether I convert the sequence to match the clip as per the above workflow (as FCP recommends) or conversely elect to force the clip into the FCP recommended sequence for 24pA footage
2. footage viewed in the P2CMS Previewer (prior to pulldown removal) does appear to my realtively untrained eye as more interlaced (though not terribly so) than that viewed in FCP in either case immediately above
3. Though the image of the 1080 footage is larger, that 1080 footage does not look as clean 720 pN (24p) footage shot with that same camera
What am I doing wrong and what do I do to get the pulldown properly removed and make my 1080pA shot footage progressive?
Or has it been done and is there something fundamental I'm not correctly understanding?
And why does the 1080 footage not look as clean as the 720 footage?