For all you Christian filmmakers out there...

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Once you have identified your role as 'getting in the media and influencing people' toward a particular faith or worldview, you are either an advertiser or a propagandist.
 
Hmmm....and here I thought art is driven by the artist's inspirations ....whatever they may be. I think, more often than not, a lot of folks have a problem with “how” things are depicted which sometimes lead to the question “what is” art? Not everyone views art in the same way.

The problem, I think, with most Christian tagged films is the “cheese factor” associated with them. I’m a Christian myself but I often viewed “Christian” tagged movies as being similar to “after school specials.” I think for Christian film makers to go more “main stream” they should be a little less preachy in their story telling (they would have a lot less people turning away). As a matter of fact I can appreciate a more subtle approach because it makes you think more (sort of like a modern day visual parable).
 
Nathyn said:
Partially, yes.



Art is an outward expression what is inside. If you're not expressing that, then there's no reason to not work for anyone that can use your talents, what's the difference. Art prostitution is in high demand. How can one say, "If we allow our human beliefs and station to infect the art as it passes through us, we aren't then being artists," when in fact that is part of art. "Self expression" is just that. How did artist start believing art is some kind of thing created a part from oneself. It's not. Art has life because of the artist.

-Nate
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Nope, that's your opinion. Your opinion is that art is a part of yourself. Just as it's the opinion of some people that love is something that we do, not something that is.

I believe being an artist is being absent from the self. That's my opinion. I take no personal credit from anything I've ever created as it had nothing whatsoever to do with me except for my ability to stay out of its way.

I take no credit in the creation, but take full responsibility for the distribution, recreation and manufacturing of what has been created once I've allowed it to exist.

There's a whole other thread on this over in the acting section, though.
 
Sad Max said:
Once you have identified your role as 'getting in the media and influencing people' toward a particular faith or worldview, you are either an advertiser or a propagandist.
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Exactly, having any personal reason for your art to exist other than it being your blessing (or curse or social dysfunction) is you injecting your own primitive human stuff into the mix. And, unfortunately, humans can only be as enlightened as their species allows. If you believe in things like love and art and spirituality I think it behooves all humans to allow the love, art and spirt to exist without interference from their own human sensibilities.

But to each his own, of course.
 
Chamber005 said:
Philosophy isn't one of the dreaded "P"s, is it? ;)
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No, but advocating one's philosophy threatens to stray into the territory of one of the dreaded "P"'s, Prosletyzing. Towards one's chosen faith or anti-faith or philosophy, that's all prosletyzing. That's what we strive to avoid.

The Christian film market is a valid topic (as would be the Jewish film market, or the children's film market, or the horror film market).

When we start talking about Christian filmmaking involving advocacy, and whether it's one's responsibility to be an advocate (or marketer or propagandist or whatever terms are starting to crop up here) that's when it strays to the area where sooner or later the bullets are going to start flying and it'll need to be shut down.
 
Sad Max said:
Once you have identified your role as 'getting in the media and influencing people' toward a particular faith or worldview, you are either an advertiser or a propagandist.
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Sad, do you remember Darryl Roberts who came here for a little?

I have been following him for a while, one of the few poeple that understand your quote very well and is using it to the max (technique liked or not).

It now invoves Ralph Lauren and CNN.

Free link for Darryl: http://americathebeautifuldoc.com/

Advertising at its best :)
 
Sad Max said:
Once you have identified your role as 'getting in the media and influencing people' toward a particular faith or worldview, you are either an advertiser or a propagandist.
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What's wrong with that? Mass art is about controlling the population, either by direct propaganda or by entertaining people thus making them harmless to the regime. In a country where half of adults cannot read a book written at eighth grade level, and every fifth citizen is functionally illiterate, movies, as a part of the whole visual news and entertainment industry, carry an educational and directional function. Well, some of them do, other just entertain, to keep the inane herd happy.
 
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