Filter Choices for the Formatt Matte Box

Barry_S

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Since many of us are about to buy the Formatt Matte Box, I'd like to suggest some (more) affordable alternatives to 4 x 4 glass filters.  Sure, it's great that the matte box is only $279, but let's say you want a mere 4 filter set of 4 x 4 glass filters.  At an average of $150 each--that's another $600.  You want half a dozen filters--that'll be $900.  >:(  One obvious alternative is renting filters as you need them--this is a pretty logical alternative to owning a wide range of filtration.  Filters (4 x 4) generally rent for $7-$9/filter/day.

Another alternative is resin 4 x 4 filters.  Well-made optical resin filters are as good as or even better than glass filters in terms of optical quality.  They're also a third of the price of glass filters.  Of course they're not as durable as glass filters, but with some careful handling they can last a long time.  At this point I have no idea exactly what filters will fit in the Formatt box, so we'll have to do a bit of testing, but here are a couple sources for 4 x 4 resin filters.

Lee Filters

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...ch&Q=*&shs=lee+filter+set&image.x=0&image.y=0

These are just some 4 x 4 sets that Lee sells, but at about $115 per set of 3 filters they seem like a good deal--especially for grads.  They also have a complete range of individual filters.  The Lee grads are 100mm x 150mm x 2mm.  The non-grads are 100mm x 100mm x 2mm.

Formatt Resin Filters

http://www.formatt.co.uk/hitech/filter_intro_page1.asp

These are sold under the name, Hitech, and I can personally vouch for the high quality.  I have some ND grads and they're excellent.  These filters are 100mm x 125mm x 1.5mm (for grads).  The non-grads are 100mm x 100mm x 1.5mm.  They also have a line of Opti-flex filters that are semi-disposable and only 0.5mm thick.

At this point, I have no idea if the Lee or Formatt filters are compatable with the Formatt box, but I think it's worth finding out.
 
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There's no official deal yet, but I think Jarred is working on it. $279 is the price that was thrown out and it definitely won't be in Canadian dollars.
 
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When buying Lee, keep in mind that they make the high-quality resin filters, but also a low-cost polyester set. I'd avoid the polyesters and stick to the resins.
 
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Yeah, great tips. Resing is a great option for the grads, but I would still trust the glass ones at least for my polarizer. Since we don't need CC filters, only grads and FX, we can actually build a nice filter kit for an inexpensive mattebox with not that much money...
 
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yeah 279 will be the mattebox price, I just gotta source out all the adapters I needed to get it right. US prices, all shipped directly from NJ.
 
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The Filter holders you mentioned are for the thinner resin filters, more used in still photo. And it doesn't have rotating filter trays. I don't see where it is a better solution than the bogen...
 
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are you sure . . . what I have manages to scrounge from the website is

" The Video Hood is lightweight and self-supporting, and features two 4" wide, 4mm thick, rotating filter slots. "

That comes from this page referenced to by the writeup

http://leefiltersusa.com/CameraPrice/CamPriceVidHd.html

or from anther part of the site . . .

" With a LEE Filters Holder, you can stack multiple filters, rotate and counter rotate filters and hoods, and place grad lines at any position.

LEE Filters' Holders are modular; they can be reconfigured to hold 1mm, 2mm and/or 4mm thick filters that are 4' wide, regardless of length. "

The belows vs the fixed setup might offer a more flexable solution as it can be extended for long shots, but also could helps cause it folds down to practicaly nothing for packing
 
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The Lee system is very flexible and there are spacers than can be use to convert 2mm filter slots to 4mm slots (or the reverse).
 
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have you seen it work barry? What I am truly wondering is if this could be a anamorphic adapter solution also. The standard hood according to the website . . .

" is appropriate for 35mm film cameras with 28mm and longer lenses. "

. . . so the wide angle lens hood? would be what??
 
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Ok, the one you sent in the PDF, that costs 300 dolars is the gel holder for resin filters. there is the other Video shade that will have the rotating trays for 4mm filters. But the video shade costs like 500 bucks!

My opinion is that the video shade cannot be twice as nice as the bogen, that's why I figure I can't be a better deal.

At least that's what I got researching the web. I could be wrong.
 
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Yeah, I think the Formatt option kind of makes the Lee system moot, considering the good price. Matthew--I don't know about options for the anamorphic--any box would have to be tested and then there's the issue of mounting.
 
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yeah considering the anamorphic mounting is paramount. I am aware thay it could be more expensive than the formatt (cant see the $500 figure) but with the formatt you are still 1 mattebox short of a full kit. This adapter is a problem! ;)
 
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[quote author=Barry_S link=board=Links;num=1091636287;start=0#0 date=08/04/04 at 09:18:07]Since many of us are about to buy the Formatt Matte Box, I'd like to suggest some (more) affordable alternatives to 4 x 4 glass filters.  <snip>
At this point, I have no idea if the Lee or Formatt filters are compatable with the Formatt box, but I think it's worth finding out.[/quote]

The Formatt UK site says this:
Fully Rotating Filter Stage
There are two fixed filter compartments which accommodate any 1mm thick filter including 4"x4", 4"x5.65" and 4"x6" filters, and one fully rotating stage, which independently rotates 360 degrees offering complete control whether using polarisers or grads.

I just can't find out how thick the resin filters are... anybody know? Also, I don't seem to find any resin polarizing filters. Jarred, if you're listening will you be selling the hitech filters too?
 
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The specs are clearly wrong because 4x4 glass filters can be 4mm, or even thicker. My *guess* is that the Formatt box will hold filters from 1mm-4mm. If you read my original post, I list the dimensions of both Lee and Formatt resin filters. Their respective thicknesses are 2mm and 1.5mm.
 
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Can somebody shed light with certainity 1mm, 4mm or any mm ???
 
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