films today..simple opinionated review.

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she was obviously hopped up on some drug...

anyhow i think screech is on the right track about making somthng scary.. people are scared of what they do not know or understand. their imagination taps into their own personal fears, which is usually worse for them than what a certain filmmaker may find scary.
 
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Good point about personal fears, this is another way to get people wound up. Get them to start to care about the character and suddenly it's personal. You have an investment in that character.

Ok, guys! now that we are all experts at this stuff, let's make a classic!

At the very least, Iamloser and I could start our own "At the Movies" review thread where we choose opposing views and argue in public.:)
 
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Oh sure. You and Iamloser. Like I would to be a part of that anyway. :'(

Sorry.

I guess it all goes back to the story element. INvest some time in your characters and people start to feel for them. Then, WHAM! Kill one off and they are like "WTF?"
 
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the problem is i dont think we would actually disagree that often, at least not often enough to keep it interesting.                                                                                                   but  i could play devils advocate and be real adamant to keep the ratings up.. like" your opinion is very wrong..mine is very right.. " how was that? :)

or i could just type out strange garbled words so that people would think im a maniac...or a genius. that would add some suspense.

..oh yeah and i agree john with the charachter development, but the timing has to be right too, and the charachter cannot seem dispensable. they have to seem like one of the people that your going to see through the whole film, and then die when you least expect it, not when theres a good chance they may die inthe very end.    a good example from a horrible film would be samuel l. jackson in " deep blue sea"
what this does is open up the audiences mind to the fact that there is a real danger to central charachters, and they wont just say "duh you know hes not going to die..he has to save the day.. instead theyll be thinking .. i wonder if theyll all die?...i wonder who will make it? and actuall y be scared when the main charachter is in a clutch.
 
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[quote author=John_Hudson link=board=Offtopic;num=1064071968;start=0#22 date=10/21/03 at 11:27:47]Oh sure.  You and Iamloser.  Like I would to be a part of that anyway. :'(

Sorry.

I guess it all goes back to the story element.  INvest some time in your characters and people start to feel for them.  Then, WHAM! Kill one off and they are like "WTF?"[/quote]

HA! Sorry, I didn't mean to leave you or anyone else out it!  Just a spoof on Roper and Eggbert.:)  Besides, the more people, the bigger the arguement.  It reminds me of that great old Irish saying: "Is this a private fight, or can anybody join?"

Regarding killing off one of the characters, if you want to tweak the audience you do that, if you want to keep them in suspense, you just threaten the heck out of the character. (then kill 'em all off at the end if you REALLY want to get people peeved).

The Jaded audience factor might actually force you to kill off an important character in order to keep the audience guessing.  "The director is bluffing, he won't kill off Bambi, well, maybe he might, he killed off Winnie the Pooh....."
 
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YES! EXACTLY!

Deep Blue Sea (which was the major disapointment (( which by the way, how many films can Renny Harlin do before someone relaizes he has no talent? No, really)) is a good example of SLJ giving the troops a speech and then, WHAM! Everyone in the audience is like "Huh? what just happended?"

And yes, daring to kill a central character, or at least threatening to is very cool. (Think Gladiator. Think T.Hanks in SPRyan) I was pissed on both of these developments, but they are 2 of my favorite films to come out in a long while.

How about Roger and Eggbert and that John guy in San Diego?

BTW

Is iamloser the funniest forumdude ever? I laugh everytime I read something from him. The ATARI symbol helps. YEah, I actually had a 2600.
 
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hmmm... im actually a pretty serious guy.. ive been in the hospital 2x for panic attacks that had me convulsing. (no joke..wish it was) i have a chronic stress dissorder you might say. not that i want to get into my history on the net, but ive got my reasons to be serious, and my reasons to be silly i guess , just as long as my humor dosent detract from the information i provide i guess...
 
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Wow. That's funny. Not funny HA HA, but funny in that I once had an issue with the whole panic attack thingy. (Here we go telling everyone our issues now - that's what the CAFE is for, I guess)

I have combatted that issue, but at one time in my life I was trippin. No med's, no physce, just literally told myself to knock it off. And I did. Weird, huh?

I am deifinatley one to be sarcastic and joke around alot. I have heard more than one time in my life that people were grateful that I "kept things light". In bootcamp (USCG) all the other dudes were like "Hudson, how do you do it? You are always smiling and positive" I was like "S K I L L S".

I am very serious. I think my brother, my wife and my BIZ partner are the only ones who really know what my "BUsiness Mode" is. My wife hates it. Why? Cause I make her laugh. It's my job to entertain her. BUt, WHAM! I go into business mode and she hates it.

Okay. I'm getting off the couch now.

And yes, I have had the paramedics called due to my 'panic attacks'. Hyperventilation, everything. Classic symptons.

It's weird. I'm like the artist (oilpaint/guitar playing/fim junkie picses) and my other half is jock (wook out/bball/surf/skate/tennis).

Way too much info here.
 
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yeah... i the art guy too. composer- artist poet(ive got some peoms in the american national book) and all that fruity stuff , but i wakeboard- rollerblade- extensively practise martial arts and weapons tactics, and other genx sort of hogwash, but ive got a family and know exactly what you mean.. i can be laying on the floor one minute, and sipping some apple juice with my little daughter, and the next 4 hours ill spend at the pc eyes straight forward.  my wife thinks my pc is the devil.. but its work for me.. its an unhealthy obsession to make somthing of my life through self expression  due to less than perfect childhood conditions.. i dont mind spilling it - we all have it to some degree.  got to prove myself to myself i guess.
 
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due to less than perfect childhood conditions..

Oh my god. Are you like my long lost brother?! I can spill with the best of them. My dad was, er, IS a *****.

My wife is the same way "filmisthedevil". But she accepts it as such. I always tell her, since my son is more and more like me everyday (By the way, isn't it cool being a Superhero?) that he's gonna be this basketball playing, surfing, filmaker kid.

Yeah baby!

You gotta spill it. It's cheaper than therapy! ;D

Hey. what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. (and a better filmaker) ::)
 
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So, back on the 'simple film review' topic (before everyone get's scared)

I'd also like to do a real freakin scary 'ghost story'. Can you believe the crap that 'they' have put out lately on this genre? They are sooo concerned with CGI BS than actually a good story and being scared.

Ghost Ship
The Haunting
13 Ghosts
HOuse on Haunted Hill

These films were entertaining in the sense of having an excuse to eat popcorn; but was anyone here ever really scared during the film? I'd love a chance to do a Ghost story.

Gotta keep it real. All that CG spetacularness (is that a word?), over the top BS.

Put me in house and scare me. The original Amityville. Now that was scary.
 
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Just wanted to chime in - I really enjoy all the postings here, quite a refreshing bunch of long lost brothers from other mothers (There are probably some sisters here as well, it just didn't flow when I tried to make it politically correct).

Scary about the similar backgrounds too... and if Martial Arts and weapons tactics are typical gen-x stuff, then I suppose I am in good company. I was running a school for a while 20 years ago.

Movies - oh yes. It has been a long time since I have been really creeped out in a theater. One of my pet peeves is the "bug hunt". Hey, I've got an idea, lets split up, we'll die much faster that way. Geez.

One of the best I had seen recently was a British production that I think was called "Dog Soldiers" or something similar. Very nicely done.
 
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Yes. Dog Soldiers was not bad at all.

I agree. I hate the "What the hell are they thinking?!" approach in films. Splitting up when YOU KNOW there is some bad things happening.

When I write, I really think about "Would a person of any sanity really do this?" - I think not.
 
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..personally i dont really care for horror films. im a big thriller fan. thrillers can get the pulse rate up, be scarey-suspenseful- realistic- sci-fi - imaginative, and clean all at the same time. like the movie "signs" or "the ring" that was pertty creepy, and very well done- masterful suspense, and a few jump scenes - was definitely worth watching, and i can wacth it with my whole family, and thats important to me. also im0portant to the pocketbooks of the filmmakers!
 
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Agreed, I never was a huge horror fan. If it has an intelligent twist, or a scifi angle, then I'm on it.
 
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I AM A FILM WHORE. I suppose I'm not the biggest fan of Comedy (I'll watch it on HBO). I like a comedy when I actually see it (Shanghai Knights, Austin Powers, etc) but I like:

Horror, action, Scfi, Thriller, Drama,

BAsically, I'm easy. HEnce the comment up top.
 
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