filmic look

thejugglerrr

thejugglerrr

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ok im working on a rather large production right now. i want a filmic look with DV but the only thing i can find the P+S technik. someone give me advice on either a camera purchase that produces a shallow d.o.f. or a used P+S. the final product will be presented on a movie screen if that helps anyone. and im using a dvx100a rn

please dont post useless arguments
 
Well DV isn't film so you can't expect it to look like film.

However, to make it look closer to film your best bet would probably be to rent a Redrock M2 35mm adapter (http://www.redrockmicro.com/). Remember that with a 35mm adapter you will need lots of light and you'll need some still photography lenses as well.

Getting that look is a pretty complicated process, so you can't just pick up the camera, press a couple of buttons and have it look like film.

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=71299

^^ Those guys pretty much got the film look down. However, they had a really good DP, a 3 ton grip truck, the M2 with a few lenses, and an HVX.
 
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ernesto said:
^^ Those guys pretty much got the film look down. However, they had a really good DP, a 3 ton grip truck, the M2 with a few lenses, and an HVX.
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Yeah that should do the trick.
 
or just shoot super 16.

just about either one will make it look like film.

best of luck!

in reality a great DP who understands lighting...really understands how to light a scene...is going to be your best bet with getting a film look on camera.

he is right the dp that shot those stills above is a freaking artist.
 
if you rented a camera, paid for stock processing and telecine, on anything more than a 5 minute short it adds up pretty fast :-( i am in preproductino on a 12 minute short on super 8...and i am hoping to shoot 1.5:1 or even lower just because i cant afford all that film, and telecine.
 
if this will be your first time shooting on film i would risk a rahter large production on the rolling of dice. it is a big change going from dv to film so shoot a short or two before risking a large production.
 
the p&s technich is a much better tool than an M2. Rent Cooke lenses. A ps Technic and hire a good AC. Where are you? i can reccomend one. PM me.
 
But isn't the PS Tech like $10,000?? and the redrock is around $1000.....I guess it depends on his budget.
 
dude... noone buys anything. Rent it. you can rent it for a week for like a 1,000$ with lenses, follow focus and Choriznel mattebox.
 
buy and renting is usually about price...no one owns panavision cameras or 10,000watt hmi lights ha. anyways if you want film without film.......learn magic bullet, and color correction really well...very important....shoot 24p or atleast progressive, and look into the 35mill adapters.
 
One thing that I think is very crucial for this "filmic look" (if you reallyreally want to try to do the impossible) is to turn down edge enchantment and lower the saturation. To my eyes overly saturated colors and edge enchantments scream video. Film doesn't need to be artificially overly saturated or sharpened because it is sharp and has those colors needed.

Good example of ee ruining the "filmic look" (at least for me) is "the Letter" short in redrock page. I can just imagine how "filmic" it would look without those screaming black borders around everything. It doesn't look like film but still looks nice.

(For some reason I always end up repeating this old mantra over and over again.)
 
TimurCivan said:
dude... noone buys anything. Rent it. you can rent it for a week for like a 1,000$ with lenses, follow focus and Choriznel mattebox.
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So after renting for two weeks you could have bought a complete setup from M2 or the other P+S alternatives for just about the same amount of money and use it forever...
I only used the first P+S version and liked it at that time, because there simply was no alternative, but like with all adapters your still degrading your VIDEO picture and will never magically turn your digital footage into FILM...
To put it short: P+S times are over, the new breeds are the way to go.
 
Not a magic bullet fan either. I prefer to get close to the final look in camera and use post as sparingly as possible.

I agree with TimurCivan, rent, don't buy. I haven't worked on a job that didn't involve at least lighting and grip rentals in a number of years. More often than not most projects involved camera and glass rental as well. The good stuff is just too expensive to justify owning.
 
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