I shot some video in 24pa with all of the default settings. I am trying to get more of a filmic look, and since I am new to this, I am wondering what video track fx would be the most useful to start playing around with (eg, color balance, color corrector, HSL Adjust, etc). I realize that this will depend on the exact look I want (which I am not even certain about quite yet), but are there any particular event fx that are more or less essential when going for the filmic look (and any suggested settings to start with?). Thanks in advance.
Filmic Look
- Thread starter kmcgrath
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Re: Filmic Look
You can try the Film Effects presets and see if you like anything there.
You can try the Film Effects presets and see if you like anything there.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
Re: Filmic Look
Not at all. I always try and shoot and true an image as I can get and then, later, in post is where I tend to apply saturation (or desat) while crushing the levels on top of that.
Not at all. I always try and shoot and true an image as I can get and then, later, in post is where I tend to apply saturation (or desat) while crushing the levels on top of that.
scharky
Veteran
Re: Filmic Look
I tend to do the same thing as John, which is shooting as flat an image as possible, preserving all colors, highlights and shadow details. however there are certain things where geting an optical effect is much better than digital. There are basically two types of color correcting tools in your arsenal, believe it or not. All of the tools that you have can either be "enhancing" effects or "de-enhancing" effects. Now because of the digital format, and this goes for most anything digital, de-enhancing effects will have much better results than enhancing effects. Let me give an example
Sharpening=Enhancing
bluring=de-enhancing
boost saturation=Enhancing
Desaturation=De-enhancing
Decreasing contrast=Enhancing (this can be a tricky one if you think about it)
Increasing contrast=De-enhancing
etc. etc.
So for shots that I am not yet set on the final look, i will get as much out of the camera as possible, meaning, as much color, detail and sharpness, without (enhancing) the image too much in camera. I usually will do this with optical filters rather than colorn temp settings. From here you can de-enhance your image almost to infinity. I hope this makes sense. I don't want "De-enhancing" to sound like a bad thing. It is not a negative, nor is "enhancing". They are just different types of color correcting. And if you look down to it, these really are the only two types of color correcting. Everything you do to your footage is either enhaning or de-enhancing the image. God I hope "De-enhancing" is a word. I used it enough.
I tend to do the same thing as John, which is shooting as flat an image as possible, preserving all colors, highlights and shadow details. however there are certain things where geting an optical effect is much better than digital. There are basically two types of color correcting tools in your arsenal, believe it or not. All of the tools that you have can either be "enhancing" effects or "de-enhancing" effects. Now because of the digital format, and this goes for most anything digital, de-enhancing effects will have much better results than enhancing effects. Let me give an example
Sharpening=Enhancing
bluring=de-enhancing
boost saturation=Enhancing
Desaturation=De-enhancing
Decreasing contrast=Enhancing (this can be a tricky one if you think about it)
Increasing contrast=De-enhancing
etc. etc.
So for shots that I am not yet set on the final look, i will get as much out of the camera as possible, meaning, as much color, detail and sharpness, without (enhancing) the image too much in camera. I usually will do this with optical filters rather than colorn temp settings. From here you can de-enhance your image almost to infinity. I hope this makes sense. I don't want "De-enhancing" to sound like a bad thing. It is not a negative, nor is "enhancing". They are just different types of color correcting. And if you look down to it, these really are the only two types of color correcting. Everything you do to your footage is either enhaning or de-enhancing the image. God I hope "De-enhancing" is a word. I used it enough.
filmelife
Well-known member
Re: Filmic Look
Good recipe i tried
-color corrector---tweak color and gamma
-film grain---just a little
-glow----little too
-color curves---contrast
The best you can do is during shooting:
watch video's latitude, use your zebras, frame and light like film, script and edit like film, use ND for shallow depth, dont underexpose, turn down sharpening, leave other settings for post
good luck
Good recipe i tried
-color corrector---tweak color and gamma
-film grain---just a little
-glow----little too
-color curves---contrast
The best you can do is during shooting:
watch video's latitude, use your zebras, frame and light like film, script and edit like film, use ND for shallow depth, dont underexpose, turn down sharpening, leave other settings for post
good luck
Re: Filmic Look
This gives me new perspective on things, and much more to understand. Would you say that shooting in the default settings in scene file 1 are more "de-enhancing" compared with scene file 6 (factoring out the 60i vs 24 p component)? Or perhaps the other way to ask this would be to shoot more in the "zero" setting in the scene file scenes as opposed to the settings that enhance (for example color saturation) a particular trait?
Thanks all.
This gives me new perspective on things, and much more to understand. Would you say that shooting in the default settings in scene file 1 are more "de-enhancing" compared with scene file 6 (factoring out the 60i vs 24 p component)? Or perhaps the other way to ask this would be to shoot more in the "zero" setting in the scene file scenes as opposed to the settings that enhance (for example color saturation) a particular trait?
Thanks all.
Re: Filmic Look
I just tried Magic Bullet for the first time and must say that I love it. These are some of the filmic looks I have been trying to obtain, but were unable to do with the color correction tools in Vegas. This is undoubtably due in large part to my inexperience level with the color correction tools. Call me superficial, but I like MBE!!
I just tried Magic Bullet for the first time and must say that I love it. These are some of the filmic looks I have been trying to obtain, but were unable to do with the color correction tools in Vegas. This is undoubtably due in large part to my inexperience level with the color correction tools. Call me superficial, but I like MBE!!