FCP and external monitor
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Slapdragon
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The external deck is the traditional route. With the last couple of suites I have built I have installed amps and speakers to get better audio location and separation since few production monitors have good sound (even home consumer TVs tend to have better sound).
The external deck is the traditional route. With the last couple of suites I have built I have installed amps and speakers to get better audio location and separation since few production monitors have good sound (even home consumer TVs tend to have better sound).
DVX100Shooter
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I have mine hooked up that way through the camera. Wish there was a way to have it hooked up to bypass the camera though. One thing I do notice is when I want to watch the monitor, I have to ALWAYS go into A/V settings then A/V Devices, and for whatever reason, I have to UNcheck the Mirror on Desktop box then Check it again then hit OK. At this point, I can now see my work on my monitor. I am not sure why I have to go through that process everytime.
I have mine hooked up that way through the camera. Wish there was a way to have it hooked up to bypass the camera though. One thing I do notice is when I want to watch the monitor, I have to ALWAYS go into A/V settings then A/V Devices, and for whatever reason, I have to UNcheck the Mirror on Desktop box then Check it again then hit OK. At this point, I can now see my work on my monitor. I am not sure why I have to go through that process everytime.
Prairieboy
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Howdy
I have a Sony break out box. It is an anolog/digital box that conects to the computer through firewire. It has both ins and outs (composite, and s video). It is a great little thing to have. I can convert analog music and video into FCP with it as well. Which has beena big help.
Howdy
I have a Sony break out box. It is an anolog/digital box that conects to the computer through firewire. It has both ins and outs (composite, and s video). It is a great little thing to have. I can convert analog music and video into FCP with it as well. Which has beena big help.
CaptainMench
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Prairie--Unfortunately Sony doesn't make these anymore. I've got one too from the old days. Sony wanted you to buy one of their cameras instead.
CaptM
Prairie--Unfortunately Sony doesn't make these anymore. I've got one too from the old days. Sony wanted you to buy one of their cameras instead.
CaptM
Prairieboy
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But there are a few others on the market now that could do the same thing.
Canapus makes a good one, as well as Datavideo. Theyare both in the 200 dollar range. Chaeper than what I paid for my Sony box.
But there are a few others on the market now that could do the same thing.
Canapus makes a good one, as well as Datavideo. Theyare both in the 200 dollar range. Chaeper than what I paid for my Sony box.
Prairieboy
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I was just thinking, it sad when the old days is three or four years ago. Yikes!
I was just thinking, it sad when the old days is three or four years ago. Yikes!
Prairieboy
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did you mean ADS Technologies by any chance.? If so, that is one that Iheard was not at the top of the list. There is color problems(Washed out).
Hope any of this helps.
did you mean ADS Technologies by any chance.? If so, that is one that Iheard was not at the top of the list. There is color problems(Washed out).
Hope any of this helps.
Slapdragon
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[quote author=Prairieboy link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=0#9 date=06/29/04 at 15:55:10]did you mean ADS Technologies by any chance.? If so, that is one that Iheard was not at the top of the list. There is color problems(Washed out).
Hope any of this helps.[/quote]
I have never seen a converter for less that $1000 that handled the C component conversion to DV well, either in or out. I saw a great one that converted R, B-Y, G-Y (betacam component) but cannot remember its name.
Also, a friend recently got a Betacam SP deck with a DV out that was very nice.
[quote author=Prairieboy link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=0#9 date=06/29/04 at 15:55:10]did you mean ADS Technologies by any chance.? If so, that is one that Iheard was not at the top of the list. There is color problems(Washed out).
Hope any of this helps.[/quote]
I have never seen a converter for less that $1000 that handled the C component conversion to DV well, either in or out. I saw a great one that converted R, B-Y, G-Y (betacam component) but cannot remember its name.
Also, a friend recently got a Betacam SP deck with a DV out that was very nice.
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Btw I saw those betacam converters which are really nice but they cost $900+ which is at the moment out fo my price range. Should I then buy the canopus dv100 thingy??? I just want to use it for my external monitor to be able to preview composite. ??? ???
Btw I saw those betacam converters which are really nice but they cost $900+ which is at the moment out fo my price range. Should I then buy the canopus dv100 thingy??? I just want to use it for my external monitor to be able to preview composite. ??? ???
Slapdragon
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[quote author=Michal Spimr link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=0#11 date=06/29/04 at 21:50:53]so if I'm gonna be getting washed out colors, what's the point using it as a digital to analog convertor for my external video monitor which I would like to use for color reference??[/quote]
Not much really. Take an e-e feed from your VTR and you get a much better, and 100% accurate look at what is going on tape (assuming you blue gun). Your two best color references are a properly blue gunned external professional monitor fed through a VTR with firewire (or whatever you use) or relying on your scopes inside of FCP plus your properly adjusted computer monitors.
[quote author=Michal Spimr link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=0#11 date=06/29/04 at 21:50:53]so if I'm gonna be getting washed out colors, what's the point using it as a digital to analog convertor for my external video monitor which I would like to use for color reference??[/quote]
Not much really. Take an e-e feed from your VTR and you get a much better, and 100% accurate look at what is going on tape (assuming you blue gun). Your two best color references are a properly blue gunned external professional monitor fed through a VTR with firewire (or whatever you use) or relying on your scopes inside of FCP plus your properly adjusted computer monitors.
Slapdragon
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[quote author=Michal Spimr link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=0#12 date=06/29/04 at 21:52:35]Btw I saw those betacam converters which are really nice but they cost $900+ which is at the moment out fo my price range. Should I then buy the canopus dv100 thingy??? I just want to use it for my external monitor to be able to preview composite. ??? ???[/quote]
I would simply hook
Firewire 400 >>> Firewire equipped DV deck >>> NTSC monitor properly adjusted using a blue only setting and a color bar feed from the computer e-e through the VTR.
[quote author=Michal Spimr link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=0#12 date=06/29/04 at 21:52:35]Btw I saw those betacam converters which are really nice but they cost $900+ which is at the moment out fo my price range. Should I then buy the canopus dv100 thingy??? I just want to use it for my external monitor to be able to preview composite. ??? ???[/quote]
I would simply hook
Firewire 400 >>> Firewire equipped DV deck >>> NTSC monitor properly adjusted using a blue only setting and a color bar feed from the computer e-e through the VTR.
Prairieboy
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If you are buying a new G5, and using only one monitor you can buy a 20 adapter from aple to give you a video out. If you plan on using two monitors you would have to purchase a second video card, but it can be a pretty cheap one just to use as a dv ou.
If you are buying a new G5, and using only one monitor you can buy a 20 adapter from aple to give you a video out. If you plan on using two monitors you would have to purchase a second video card, but it can be a pretty cheap one just to use as a dv ou.
Slapdragon
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[quote author=Prairieboy link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=15#16 date=07/01/04 at 13:08:53]If you are buying a new G5, and using only one monitor you can buy a 20 adapter from aple to give you a video out. If you plan on using two monitors you would have to purchase a second video card, but it can be a pretty cheap one just to use as a dv ou.[/quote]
All three of the stock cards for the G5 are dual head cards, meaning they can split their VRAM between two monitors. The stock nVidia in the G5 is a dog, the 9600t is good for video, the 9800is a good card, and their is a new nVidia 6800 that blows the doors off of anything available elsewhere (and can drive two 30" displays, each of which needs 2 DVI out puts they are so large).
[quote author=Prairieboy link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=15#16 date=07/01/04 at 13:08:53]If you are buying a new G5, and using only one monitor you can buy a 20 adapter from aple to give you a video out. If you plan on using two monitors you would have to purchase a second video card, but it can be a pretty cheap one just to use as a dv ou.[/quote]
All three of the stock cards for the G5 are dual head cards, meaning they can split their VRAM between two monitors. The stock nVidia in the G5 is a dog, the 9600t is good for video, the 9800is a good card, and their is a new nVidia 6800 that blows the doors off of anything available elsewhere (and can drive two 30" displays, each of which needs 2 DVI out puts they are so large).
Slapdragon
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[quote author=Paul_Maxe link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=15#18 date=07/02/04 at 02:21:33]So I dont need to use a dv deck to use a production monitor with my Mac? I will be able to preview on it with using an additional video card? I want to have 2 crt monitors and a production monitor.[/quote]
If you buy a DV >>> NTSC converter that FCP recognizes (most in other words) then you can have a monitor with no VTR. The second video card is unneeded. Most, if they have an NTSC out, only spit out the content of the desktop and not the content of the FCP.
For professional output, you can go with an IO system with SDI or analog outs. Although pricey (up to 2000 USD) they do allow you to skip the deck without loosing viewing quality.
[quote author=Paul_Maxe link=board=FCP;num=1088406055;start=15#18 date=07/02/04 at 02:21:33]So I dont need to use a dv deck to use a production monitor with my Mac? I will be able to preview on it with using an additional video card? I want to have 2 crt monitors and a production monitor.[/quote]
If you buy a DV >>> NTSC converter that FCP recognizes (most in other words) then you can have a monitor with no VTR. The second video card is unneeded. Most, if they have an NTSC out, only spit out the content of the desktop and not the content of the FCP.
For professional output, you can go with an IO system with SDI or analog outs. Although pricey (up to 2000 USD) they do allow you to skip the deck without loosing viewing quality.