doubledark
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thanks Drew
thanks Drew
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As been eluded to... It depends. My steadfast rule of thumb is never to invade "personal space". That means arms length and beyond. Usually 3-5 feet away from the subject. Having said that, my go to lenses are the 15mm 1.7 and 25mm 1.4 Leica Summilux lenses. 30 and 50mm equivalent for M 4/3. With an occasional use of the 42.5 Nocticron 1.2 (85mm) where space permits. I target the 2.5 -3.4 apertures for better sharpness/contrast with decent bokeh separation. I really like the Voitlanders, they really do render a gentle sharpness (hard to quantify), but in a class of its own.
For many of us the choice to shoot long lens was often a function of shooting on a 2/3" chip and the desire to make the image look less "video". That is, we sought to get the background out of focus- something that was more difficult to accomplish with the smaller sensors. The idea was to isolate the subject from the background, to give the viewer little to focus upon besides the person being interviewed. Sound bites from interview subjects were often short in the final edit of the product and the idea was that you wanted the viewer to focus only on the person and not be reading a billboard in the background during the 5 second clip of the person speaking. I suppose in that we were ( are? ) assuming the audience to be easily distracted and lacking in focus. But if the piece was, say, a marketing piece, the client desired the viewer to come away from the short clip having paid attention to what the person said and to be able to repeat what the person said. What you didn't want was a case where when asked what the person on camera just said an viewer responds "Um, I don't know because I was looking at the woman in the tight red dress who was walking in the background." or "I didn't hear what the person said because I was looking at the stuff he had on his desk."
In narrative and documentary work the environment of the individual on camera is often important and can relay information about the person. Is the individual's home / office orderly or messy? What is the individual's taste in decor? In work such as a testimonial for a product the environment of the individual on camera is less often of importance. There are times where the client doesn't want the location of the interview known to the audience, times where the client doesn't want the faces of anyone in the background to be distinguishable ( since it means obtaining appearance releases ), or doesn't want the background in focus because the production doesn't have the rights to artwork on the walls or doesn't want products names to be readable. ( the "Xerox" or "Coca Cola" machine in the background. ). Isolating the subject from the background / placing the background out of focus makes things more simple for the client and gives the viewer no option but to look at the person speaking on camera. And it makes for a more "pretty" shot.
Another practical aspect to shooting longer lens is that a more distant camera position left you the ability to dance between a wide shot ( waist up ) and an extreme closeup ( tightly cropped face ). With the camera positioned in close, as Deakins does, an extreme closeup of the person's face is likely to be unflattering. You will likely be shooting "up the person's nose", as it were. In "real world" shooting you cannot re-position the camera during the interview. That breaks the rhythm and flow of the interview- interviews that are often with people who are already nervous and uncomfortable as they have never before been interviewed on camera. If, as a DP / Lighting Cameraman you were to demand of the client that you be able to re-position during interviews you would not likely get hired again. A camera position far away from the subject helps with subjects who are nervous about appearing on camera, as does a lighting setup that is not claustrophobic / intimidating. The idea, the desire of most clients, is to have the subject "forget" that they are being filmed and become so engrossed in the conversation as be less aware of the video production taking place. The further away the camera and camera operator the more likely the subject is to "forget" about the camera.
I get what Deakins was saying and I read where it was noted that he has extensive experience shooting docs, but his comment was still a bit high-minded imo and not exactly taking into consideration the practicalities of "real world" shooting. Examples being the aforementioned scenario where there are branded logos in the background or individuals in the background for whom the production does not have appearance releases.
Interviews are most often shot long lens and shot long lens for both the photographic result and numerous practical motivations. It isn't simply because the DP's / Camera ops don't know any better and never thought of placing the camera "inside" the two-person conversation.
You may have made the most sense of anyone in this thread so far. I still do them long lens unless otherwise requested. People keep mentioning how if the cam is far away the interviewer has to be far away. Why? If you're shooting telephoto you should be able to have the interviewer very close to talent regardless of camera distance and still not see them in the shot. The interviewer does not need to be near the camera. Just off axis from the lens? Probably. Right NEAR the lens? Not necessarily. Obviously if they're too close in you'll see interviewer shoulder/head but you can compromise 'til it all works out and still have the cam 12 feet back if you want and the interviewer much closer to talent.