fat man versus automobile

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Steve_VanHaaster

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Sorry, im not posting any grabs in this forum, but if you can help me out ill post them when theyre shot.

I need to figure out the best way to create a very realistic pedestrian versus vehicle collision. I am working on a short that is to be shot in a few months and i am still struggling with the shot sequence that i need to make it look real.

A large man in a Tshirt and jogging pants stopps in the middle of an empty intersection(on his bike), bends down and picks up a snail. Out of no where a car/van/truck?? drives through the intersection and creams the fat man. The car is supposed to be a supprise. The shot that we are first introduced to the vehicle will probably be from down the road that he just came from, and he is at the crest of the hill. All other shots and angles are negotiable.

If anyone has any ideas how to make this work it would be greatly appectiated.
Thanx. Cheers
Steve
 
You could shoot a close up of him picking up the snail, only use a realistic fake hand, then have the van run into the fake hand/snail setup, then cut to a shot of the bike caught in front of the van dragging on the ground. Just a thought.
 
You could shoot one scene with just the actor and then another with the car. Bring it into photoshop as a filmstrip file and do the necessary layer erasing after you combine the two filmstrip layers.

Of course you'll need to keep the camera still during the scene and have the actor pretend to be mowed down. Or as the car is coming full speed at him you should show him brace for the impact and then cut to a quick shot of a dummy wearing the same clothes being ran over.
 
fat man

fat man

I think you should actually run over Michael Moore.

:)

Joke! That was a JOKE!

One of Robert Rodrigez' films had a sequence sort of like that, and he explains it in the extras. Might have been Once Upon A Time In Mexico... anyone know which one I'm talking about?

There's a very short short of a guy who gets creamed between a car and a fruit stand. The guy sees the car coming, dodges one way, then changes his mind and dodges back, then BAM. Broken melons all over the place. It was a very convincing shot. Basically, they shot the guy dodging, then stopped the camera, moved him out of the way, filmed the car smashing into the fruit stand, and cut the two together so tightly that you buy it that the guy got hit.

Please post your footage in the Screen Clips section if you get it done. I'd love to see it!
 
speedbump said:
I think you should actually run over Michael Moore.

:)

Joke! That was a JOKE!

One of Robert Rodrigez' films had a sequence sort of like that, and he explains it in the extras. Might have been Once Upon A Time In Mexico... anyone know which one I'm talking about?

There's a very short short of a guy who gets creamed between a car and a fruit stand. The guy sees the car coming, dodges one way, then changes his mind and dodges back, then BAM. Broken melons all over the place. It was a very convincing shot. Basically, they shot the guy dodging, then stopped the camera, moved him out of the way, filmed the car smashing into the fruit stand, and cut the two together so tightly that you buy it that the guy got hit.

Please post your footage in the Screen Clips section if you get it done. I'd love to see it!
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Yeah, it's on the extras to "Once Upon a Time in Mexico".
 
speedbump said:
filmed the car smashing into the fruit stand
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A nice example of Roger Ebert's "Fruit Cart" rule of moviemaking:

Any vehicular chase sequence must involve the upturning or smashing of a cart of fruit, such as one would find along a street or in a farmer's market. These crashes (which may occur in mid-chase, or as the grand finale) precipitate much strategic leaping by merchants, shoppers, and other pedestrians (played by stunt persons) who fling themselves out of harm's way in the nick of time.


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Simplest: film the impact backwards. Possibly undercranking it.

Just be sure there is no other motion in frame (other people in the background, clouds scudding by, etc) when you do it.

The rest of the sequence can be done forwards, of course. Just make a cut to the impact.

Dan
 
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