Exporting to Encore?

petelms

petelms

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Hello!

I have been editing my project with Premiere 2 and now I need to export it to the Encore and keep the highest quality possible. So what is the best way to do it?

The lenght of the project is over 90 mins and I will have also some menu stuffs which should fit also on the DVD. I'm going to burn normal 4,7 gigs DVD-r. My project is letterboxed 4:3 PAL.

1.) Is it a good idea to export the whole project into one big DV AVI-file? And then let the Encore decide how much it compress it to the final DVD? Do I lose some quality this way?

2.) Or should I use the media Encoder in the Premiere? But, how do I know then that it uses all space possible on the DVD and it finally fits on it with menus and other stuffs? Which options I should choose to keep the highest quality possible? Encore fits the stuffs automatically...

3.) Also, when people are using third-party encoders to compress their projects, how do they know they use the whole space on the DVD?

Thank you. :dankk2:
 
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I much prefer to use the Media Encoder in Premiere so that I can "budget the bits" myself for the best results. You do need to be aware of the data rate limits and disc capacity, but that isn't a difficult thing to manage at all.

A TRT of 90 minutes is going to be a fairly low average data rate to fit on a single layer (DVD-R) disc so your quality is going to suffer compared to having greater disc capacity. If you lack dual layer recording capability you could consider spanning across two discs to push the quality up.
 
I'm fiarly new to Encore but I recently did a project where I exported an MPEG file from PPro2 using the Adobe Media Encoder and then exported the same timeline AVI uncompressed and transcoded in Encore, the Encore transcoded DVD looked much better.

I think I must be loosing my mind because when you go into the edit transcode settings menu in Encore it is identical to the AME. But everyone else who viewed the two DVD's agreet that the one transcoded in Encore was better.
 
Thanks for the replies.

I'm still wondering, do I lose any quality if I export the whole project into DV AVI from the Premiere? :huh:
 
petelms said:
Thanks for the replies.

I'm still wondering, do I lose any quality if I export the whole project into DV AVI from the Premiere? :huh:
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Yes, you would lose quality. That is the only method I WOULD NOT use. You are adding an uneccessary render-pass in there (and to make it worse, you are using a compressed format such as DV-AVI).

The best workflow seems to be one of two ways. Render out MPEG2 in PP using Media Encoder.

or

If you want to render out your MPEG2 in Encore, a non-destructive way to get your footage in there (without having to render) is this. Open AfterEffects. Import your PP project into AE. Save the file. Now you can import your AE project into Encore. Effectively you have just imported your Premiere Pro project into Encore using After Effects as the middle man. The best thing is that there were no render-passes between programs, so you keep the integrety of your original project.

I thought you were able to directly import your PP timelines into Encore, but I can't seem to find how you do it (so I guess you can't). Anyways, this AfterEffects work-a-round should work fine.
 
ChuckS said:
I'm fiarly new to Encore but I recently did a project where I exported an MPEG file from PPro2 using the Adobe Media Encoder and then exported the same timeline AVI uncompressed and transcoded in Encore, the Encore transcoded DVD looked much better.

I think I must be loosing my mind because when you go into the edit transcode settings menu in Encore it is identical to the AME. But everyone else who viewed the two DVD's agreet that the one transcoded in Encore was better.
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Did you export from AME with multiplexing turned off? If you didn't then the combined data rate (audio & video) would result in less peak data assigned to the video portion. Assuming similar resultant file sizes (compared to the post MPEG encode from within Encore), this would account for the quality difference that you observed.
 
I didn't even know that was a choice.

Since I have been working mostly in HD and not generating DVD's I have not used the AME that much. After futzing around with it a bit I like it.

Thanks for the info.

~chuck
 
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