Exporting back to DV

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swiperstopswiping

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Do many of you export your finished video back to DV after post? I haven't been accustomed to doing this, but am worried about quality degredation by compressing and burning to a DVD. Any thoughts?
 
depends on what you are trying to do or your final format...i export a complete file and use that to playback in premiere if i need to export to tape. that file i also use to make other delivery formats. right now with DVDs at 8GB (until HD-DVD or BluRay) i export in sections and save those to discs. i know others that export and save/archive the file on external drives and then store the drives. that's a bit expensive to me. anyway it goes to what is your final format. is that how you're planning to archive your projects/work?
 
I don't export back to dv but that's because I have a lot of HD space and haven't needed it. But If the situations where right I would consider it
 
Always go to multiple formats if it's an important piece. You never know when your hard drive is going to crash and you're going to lose your AVI master...

If you're going out to tape make sure you use a high-quality tape. Tape quality DOES make a difference, especially when you want to capture it again five years down the road.
 
Well, I am going to be filming a full length indi film this summer, and I know that it will definelty not fit uncompressed on a DVD. (at this point in time at least) I am mainly concerned about preserving the quality, mainly just in case a film out ever occurs. In this case of a film out, would export to tape be the best? And also, does anyone know when the BluRay will be coming out?
 
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supposedly both are already out and between now and july/august we should really see more of them. drives, burners, etc.

if you're editing uncompressed then going to tape is DV. you can store 8GBs worth of video on dual layer DVDs...i know that's not a lot of time, but it's a start.
 
Since you're breaking it up over multiple tapes anyway for a feature, you may as well also break it up into different AVIs over different DVDs. Uncompressed is going to be a space problem in a huge way but DV AVI shouldn't be too crazy... I think 2-3 DL disks should cover you.
 
overnighttolondon said:
Since you're breaking it up over multiple tapes anyway for a feature, you may as well also break it up into different AVIs over different DVDs.
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Shouldn't I break it into different mpeg2's or mpeg4's? Aren't mpeg's considered better quality than an AVI file?
 
you'd be compressing your footage that much further...why?...either keep it as DV or go uncompressed. i personally export quicktime using the component video codec. it's a 2:1 compression ratio. oh and no mpegs aren't considered better quality than avi...although it depends on the codec used in the avi. is mpeg4 better than uncompressed? file size yes...video, no. especailly if you later wanted to edit your archived work.
 
I had a project I did for a corporation and afterwards, I backed up all my project files (including multiple large AVI files) to a few DVDs.

I am looking to get some of the dual layer discs to do this, but not until they go down a little in price. It's cheaper to use two DVD-Rs instead of one dual layer right now and it takes up very little space.
 
I find copying the AVI back to camera (tape) the safest and easiest way to make maximum quality backups. Tape seems to be the safest and best tried medium to keep data safe, DVD:s can not be trusted to keep for decades, not even years. HD:s can fail naxt second (I keep all critical projects in two copies on two drives). Making (full quality) data DVD:s in stead of normal (mpeg compressed) DVD:s is confusing to many.

I also send videos to stations on miniDV for consideration, shov my videos by using tape and camera connected to TV/projector. Max quality, min hassle.
 
though going to tape sounds great...the real problem is what if you get a drop out? it's not as perfect as it sounds.
 
novelt said:
though going to tape sounds great...the real problem is what if you get a drop out? it's not as perfect as it sounds.
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Oh shise! I didn't know dropouts occured exporting from Premiere. Is that common? I will most likely be exporting to Panasonic AMQ's.
 
If your computer is working OK there are no dropouts. I have never had any exporting to tape, or capturing from camera to PC, either.

Better not have the net and other unncessary stuff running at the same time (backround indexing etc.). Let Premiere have the whole machine. My pc is not connected to the net, no virus checkers, no indexing: no problems.
 
I haven't had it happen to me either, but then again i haven't tried exporting an hour long project. i'm right now exporting to a hard drive a project that's 1:39 in length and towards the end of the first export (long story) the warning popped up saying i was low on virtual memory. now what if that happens during the export to tape?

all i'm saying is sure exporting to tape can be a good solution, but problems due arise at unforseen times. if you're archiving projects that are over an hour it's much faster to just archive to DVDs or a swappable hard drive than to sit and hope that nothing goes wrong while exporting to tape.

wait! just thought of something...is it possible to use the firestore? if you can record straight to disk, why not archive straight to disk using the same recording method and at the same time have a variety of formats to archive in...has that been discussed here?

then again exporting a file is the same thing...just one less step. oh but at first it sounded like a great idea. :)
 
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My computer isn't hooked up to the internet, and i don't really have any other programs that run all the time like virus scans, so hopefully there shouldn't be any problems. Thanks for all your help dudes.
 
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