Export without re-encoding?

gadg17

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Hi

Can I ask a noob question here? (Noob to Premiere and HD, at least.).

I have just installed Premiere Pro CS3 on a new home PC - am used to Avid Xpress at work. At home I'm shooting AVC/H.264 in 720p at 29fps and can import the footage into Premiere in a matter of seconds. I would like to export the edited product in the same resoution/format as the source, for streaming from the PC. But exporting using Adobe Media Encoder takes forever.

Is that to be expected? Should I be going via AME at all? And if so what settings should I be using? (I have tried H.264 720p and changed the frame rate to 29.97. Quality is OK; just the encoding time that's a surprise.) Do the project settings come into it?

Except obviously where there are effects, I had expected it not to need to re-render the footage for a "same as source" export - but I could be completely wrong there.

Any guidance on settings/workflow appreciated. The PC is a quad core 8300 running Win7 64bit with 6gb RAM and 1gb GT220 graphics card.

Thanks
David
 
That's normal. PP doesn't smart render h.264 without 3rd party plugins; it re-encodes everything. Only some formats allow passthrough in PP natively, like DV-AVI
 
Never render "in the same resolution and format" as the source unless you're sure it's what you want for a delivery medium. Generally when people do this they're trying to retain quality for additional post processing, and they're losing quality every time they do this.
 
@PDR - Understood, thanks. I tried the trial of Mainconcept MPEG Pro HD4 last night but it too needed to re-encode everything. File handling seemed a little smoother, though.

@Huy Vu - Any other output format you'd suggest to maintain the original image quality? I don't have Blu-ray - maybe one day - but I can stream most HD files from my editing PC to the main TV via a Realtek HD Media Player. My thought was to do that for home viewing and upload to the web for other family members to see.

Thanks again
David
 
@Huy Vu - Any other output format you'd suggest to maintain the original image quality? I don't have Blu-ray - maybe one day - but I can stream most HD files from my editing PC to the main TV via a Realtek HD Media Player. My thought was to do that for home viewing and upload to the web for other family members to see.

Encoding falls into two categories: either you're taking the footage through a lot of post production steps (editing, VFX, color grading etc.) and you want to maintain as much information as you can through several generations, or you're rendering out a final output for distribution and viewing. For the former really the only way to go is uncompressed or through a semi-lossless intermediate codec, but the resulting filesize is huge and usually not suitable for viewing. For the latter, something like h.264 is great, but you'll also be tossing away a ton of information and if you try to edit these files later, you'll see a huge loss in quality.
 
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