EXPORT TO QUICKTIME PROBLEM

STORYTELLER32

STORYTELLER32

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Hi all,
Well, I managed to export my rather large 22 minute film to a quicktime movie. Took two days to do it and its a roughly 35GB file now.. (cleaner keeps crashing when I try to compress it, but that's another story..)

Everything seems ok except one thing. For some reason, my credits blog (crawl) has a glitch in it. (a quick frame or two flashes a piece of the middle of the blog right at the beginning of the crawl) I fixed this glitch in my timeline with some creative editing by placing a black frame from a photoshop file over the problem spot and it plays fine in my nested file (the output source). But for some reason, it showed up in my final quicktime output.

Question:
I don't want to have to wait for two plus more days to output this yet again. I was wondering if there's a way to fix this in the final file? Its just a frame or two that needs to be chopped out or covered up. Suggestions, anyone?
 
Re: EXPORT TO QUICKTIME PROBLEM

Go into QT Player and select the frame and hit delete. Resave as self-contained. You could also re-render jus that section and replace the section in QT Pro. (Or in FCP for that matter)
 
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Scott, you rock. You wouldn't happen to be a cleaner 6 guru, would you? It keeps crashing on me when I go to compress the file.
 
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Wait, just realized, I can't do that. I have a soundtrack floating over the credit crawl. If I delete out the two frames or so, it will "pop" my soundtrack as well.

Any other suggestions? (anyone?)
 
Re: EXPORT TO QUICKTIME PROBLEM

Can you just re-render the end section? Set in/out points of the project/sequence to just the credits. Try to choose a point that will be easy to find in the movie file (last frame of picture, etc)
 
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Well the thing is, I nested the entire movie and then dropped a 2:35:1 matte across it. Took two days to render the whole thing that way so if I make an alteration, it will require me to go through that whole process again. Then there will be another 3 days to output the FCP movie file too (yes, I need a G5).

So while it's an option to go back to start over from scratch, it's one I'm trying to avoid and make a simple change to the file outside of FCP if possible. Starting to look like it's not possible though...

Like I said, it's not showing a problem in my nested source file. Only the FCP movie output.
 
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How would I go about re-rendering the small portion at the end and then re-attach it to the rest of a separate file outside of FCP so as to avoid having to re-render the entire file? I'm not doubting it's possible, I just want to know how to do it. Do you use quicktime pro to do that?
(be heavy on the detail! :))
 
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Hey, I just posted a reply to your output question(though it wasn't really an answer).

I'm not sure why it's taking so long to render stuff out - unless you used Magic Bullet filters, then it takes forever - did you use magic bullet?

I read you put a cinescope(2:35 matte) over the entire movie. I may be wrong but I assume you just laid it over the entire movie as one clip.

I don't recommend doing this. Whenever I do mattes, I lay them over each individual clip in the show. That way I can offset the matte to whatever frame of picture I want for each clip. (But - you may have matted your viewfinder to 2:35 whilest shooting, and my comment is then irrelevant).

Anyways, if you are using Magic Bullet, that's why it's taking so long, if you aren't something else is wrong.
 
Re: EXPORT TO QUICKTIME PROBLEM

Go to the place in the timeline where you want to re-render. As mentioned find a place that you can easily locate.
Hit I for In point in the timeline. Go to end and hit O for out point.
Export- > QuickTime movie (adjust settings to match your last output)

You now have the end re-rendered.

Two options:
Do it in QT Player. Open original and new render movies in QT Player.
In the original movie select the two triangles at the bottom left of the QT timeline. Set right for the out point and left for the in point. These should match your new render. Section of timeline will now be gray.
Go to New render movie in quicktime and Edit -> Select All and then Edit -> Copy.
Go back to original movie. Edit -> Replace. Your new end should now be in place. File -> Save-As give it a new name and click the Make Self-Contained radio button.

Your other option is to create a FCP project or sequence matching your renders and import your original and re-render section movies and just edit as normal. Re-export QuickTime. Since there's no true render required this shoudl be quick.
 
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Hi Scott(s) ;D

For Stabb:
Yes, I used magic bullet which is what mostly likely gave me the long render times.

I had to place the matte over the project as a whole because we shot the project with the anamorphic adapter. Rather than make an outline template in the LCD screen for framing, my DP opted to crop in camera which effectively gave me the 2:35 frame I wanted. However, the black bars are saved as pixel data and when I was working in post, some of the special effects I created was affecting the frame. I needed to place the matte over the whole thing to unify the frame of the project and cover up the special effects that affected the borders of the frame. Took longer to do that way, but next time I know not to let him crop in camera. Lesson learned for a first time film maker.

The file size of the FCP movie output has me confused based on what you said in the post in the compression forum. Here's my settings for the output in FCP:
exported as Quicktime Movie (not conversion). Under "setting" I selected "custom" which brings up the sequence preset editor.
 
Frame Size: 720x405 with an aspect ratio set to Custom 16:9
pixel aspect ratio of NTSC CCIR 601 / DV and the anamorphic flag checked.
 
editing timebase (29.97)
compressor NONE

In the end, my output for the 22 minute film was 35gigs. (ouch) Comments? Suggestions? Did I do something wrong?

ScottDVX:
Thanks so much for the instructions! I will try and take advantage of it once I finish compressing this sucker.
 
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