Everything I hate about today's "music" in one music video

This thread is great! :) I watched the whole video, and WOW was that painful.

I can tell you this, I am actually involved with the music scene and have a song remix that is currently #19 on the Billboard Dance/Club chart. The more I have seen the inside of the industry, the more I can tell you it works very similar to the film industry, when it comes to investment. They want new songs that capitalize on the success of other songs. "What song is this song like?" just like "What movie is this movie like?" I hear the same questions, just different media types.

They sent us a song to remix recently that copied from the Black Eyed Peas SO much that if I hadn't known the voices of the BEP, I would have thought it was them. I was shocked.

I also do VJing on the side, every month, for the last 3 years. I have over 4000+ music videos. I have seen it all from the 60s,70s,80s,90s,00s, and now 10s :) Some 80s videos are so cheezy it just amazes me.

Have you seen the video for Goonies R Good? From Cyndi Lauper? The end of it made me CRINGE it was soo bad when she was crying out for help from Steven Spielberg. Even if this video was a hoax, I have been to our local bowling alley for Blacklight bowling and they play music from this genre. It IS this bad.

But with all things, music is subjective.

I am doing a 'Back to the 80s' party in April and I might just have to play Toy Soldiers :) Hehe. Or maybe "Let's hear it for the boys" :)
 
Haha! And I will also say, there is NO autotune in my studio. Though I do use Melodyne to fix slight deviations of notes :) Someone told me recently "Why didn't the Highlander franchise follow their own advice? There can be only one!" :)

Also funny, I was going through the last 1000 Billboard #1 hits last week and Disco Star Wars was on there. I HAD to go listen :)
 
Barry_Green said:
Dude... NKOTB was what it was, sure, and I was never a fan, but The Right Stuff was fun, and eminently more listenable than this... plus, it gave us Donnie Wahlberg as the emaciated freak in The Sixth Sense...
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Not to mention that, in turn, Wahlberg gave us the character of Lipton, who stole the show in Band of Brothers...
 
I look at the videos from this company that's pumping these things out... Even though the music is VERY Disney Channel-esque, the quality of many of the videos from Ark Music Factory is actually decent. Scam or not, someone is making a lot of money.
 
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Kit Hannah said:
I look at the videos from this company that's pumping these things out... Even though the music is VERY Disney Channel-esque, the quality of many of the videos from Ark Music Factory is actually decent. Scam or not, someone is making a lot of money.
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Well, making money is the only point. The whole manufactured teen idol phenomenon is nothing new, shoot... look back to the whole "Beach Party" craze from the early sixties. Annette and Frankie, Sandra Dee... Same thing. What all of this stuff reeks of, from the beginning to now, is the vibe that the whole thing is put together by a bunch of middle aged guys who are trying to make something that is "Hip... for the kids". Now days though it is just so focus group refined that it is sickening.
 
Barry_Green said:
Grab your tongue with both hands and do not, DO NOT, disrespect the Disco Star Wars! Heck, next you'll be bagging on "Hooked On Classics"...
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Disco Star Wars ain't nothin' next to dance-club Dr. McCoy:


This song is made of 24-karat win. With diamond baguettes.
 
Barry_Green said:
That's the autotune, and it is the torture that this generation has devised to inflict on the gray-hairs of today...
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Haha. Okay, ONE thing I must say here.... you know Auto-Tune started with the Gray Hairs? >:]

It's been around since the mid-90's, and came back after Imogen Heap's song "hide and seek", which was a very great use of the software.

It is pretty bad, now, though.
 
Autotune was released in 1997, in terms of the software, which Cher made popular with "Believe". I remember this time well because I too was wondering how they did it not knowing about autotune at the time and thinking they used a regular vocoder which I could NEVER make sound like that. And I agree, I bet it was some grey hairs that started it! :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune
 
Rick Burnett said:
Autotune was released in 1997, in terms of the software, which Cher made popular with "Believe". I remember this time well because I too was wondering how they did it not knowing about autotune at the time and thinking they used a regular vocoder which I could NEVER make sound like that. And I agree, I bet it was some grey hairs that started it! :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune
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Was it 97? Man I swear it was like when I was SUPER young I started hearing Robot Voice. But, I guess I wasn't that young. Haha.

Mid-to-late nineties, I stand corrected. Thanks Wiki!

I remember it mostly from that song "I'm Blue, baba dee do do daaa"
 
Rick Burnett said:
......This thread is great! :) I watched the whole video, and WOW was that painful.

I can tell you this, I am actually involved with the music scene and have a song remix that is currently #19 on the Billboard Dance/Club chart. The more I have seen the inside of the industry, the more I can tell you it works very similar to the film industry, when it comes to investment. They want new songs that capitalize........

Have you seen the video for Goonies R Good? From Cyndi Lauper? The end of it made me CRINGE it was soo bad when she was crying out for help from Steven Spielberg. )
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Wow, I can't believe you mentioned the goonies song! My buddy just put it on his Fb as a joke. Hadn't heard or thought about that since it came out. The song itself wasn't terrible, but history buried it.
 
Rick, don't forget there were TWO videos, one being a sequel. But they just used the same song, how lame.
 
Haha, I don't think I have the sequel video! I agree, I like the song, just the video is SO bad :)

Pertaining to auto-tune, a lot of earlier stuff used vocoders which can produce similar results in some cases, but always a bit more robotic sounding. Autotune actually shifts the frequency of the incoming audio while preserving time (basically, format adjustments), whereas most vocoder stuff I have takes your voice and uses the frequency content to modulate other instruments with the same amplitude curve.

So you probably heard the effect MUCH earlier, but not as well defined as what Cher's engineers were able to do. And for them, it was MUCH easier. :)
 
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