End Credit Logos

Brandon Rice

Distributed Producer
Hey, sorry, don't know which forum to put this in. Anyway, is it fine to use logos from companies in your end credits. For instance, Panasonic, Arri, Avid, etc.

Thanks.
 
I am not in any way qualified to dispense legal advice :) (any lawyers on the board?) but common sense says it's probably ok. As long as your use of their logos doesn't cause any brand confusion or cast them in any sort of bad light, I believe you're protected. If nothing else, it probably falls under "fair use."

However, if a company saw your movie and hated it for some reason (product use, ideology, policy, whatever) they might not want their logo anywhere attached to your product. Anywhere.

Why would you want to do that, out of curiosity? I'm guessing these companies aren't paying you, otherwise you wouldn't have to ask...?

-Jared
 
"Fair use" doesn't have anything to do with trademark.

Generally speaking, you may not use a trademark without permission (there are exceptions, of course, including using them in competing advertising). Those films which have the logos at the end do so with permission -- and it's usually part of a deal for using the equipment.
 
David Jimerson said:
"Fair use" doesn't have anything to do with trademark.
Why not? I've seen trademark fair use discussed quite a bit. I know there must be rules regarding that and circumstances under which it is ok to use a company's copyrighted trademark (besides even competitive advertising). Is it under a different umbrella than the plain ol' "fair use" doctrine? (Not arguing with you, just wanted to learn.)
 
"Fair use" is a doctrine under copyright law, which is a separate section of the law.

The operative part of Trademark law defining infringement here is:

(a) use in commerce any reproduction, counterfeit, copy, or
colorable imitation of a registered mark in connection with the
sale, offering for sale, distribution, or advertising of any
goods or services on or in connection with which such use is
likely to cause confusion, or to cause mistake, or to deceive; or

Use in your film may cause confusion in that it implies endorsement.

Pepsi using the Coca-Cola logo in advertisements will not cause confusion.

There are grey areas, but Brandon hits it on the head -- better to be safe.
 
One other thing... I had heard Final Cut Pro requires films edited with that software to include the logo at the end credits... is this correct?
 
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