Encoding MOVs from Premiere/Cineform.. HELP

Tom Lowe

Tom Lowe

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I've literally been struggling with this for years, and I was hoping CS3 would solve my problems. It hasn't.

I use Cineform Aspect 5.0 in Premiere Pro CS3, and I am having great difficulty exporting quality Quicktime MOVs.

First, when I try to export my timeline with Cineform color correction, the color correction gets lost during the MOV encoding. All CC information is totally discarded. Same thing with WMVs.

Second, there are very few Audio options for Quicktime export. In the regular Export>Movie interface, there are actually NO options for Audio compression in Quicktime. In the Media Encoder interface, there are only random old-school options like PCM, Qualcomm, etc. No AAC, no MP3.

I used to have Quicktime Pro, and when I tried to use that directly to encode my Cineform intermediates, it would not even open the Cineform AVI files.

Any tips for taking a Cineform Premiere timeline and encoding it to MOV?

thanks.
 
if you have AE you can import the PPRo sequence into an new AE comp or just creat a new AE comp through PPRO dynamic link, and then render out of AE. normally you should have any loss of color correction ect when exporting to anythng from PPRO and i assume that that is a cineform issue entirely. IT would be worth hitting up thier support on thier site to search for options. through the CS3 media encoder you can just select h.264 compression though and it performs beautifully (without cineform)
 
Leaving Cineform aside for the moment, what about those Audio encoding options for Media Encoder Quicktime? All I see are a bunch of random old codecs. If I choose H.264 as the file format (which saves as .mp4), instead of Quicktime, it gives me beautiful Audio encoding options like AAC and Lame MP3, etc. But I would rather encode H.264 in a quicktime MOV wrapper. What Audio codecs do you see for MOV?
 
linear PCM
A-law 2:1
AAC
Apple Lossless
IMA 4:1
Mace 3:1
MAce 6:1
QDesign music 2
Qualcom Purevoice
U-law 2:1

these are all listed under the h.264 audio export settings for audio options under the quicktime format. the codecs you see will vary pending what codecs you have on your machine and have license to. theres 3 + ways to export an h.264 (..and some other file types as well). you can use the file -> export -> movie function and select the quicktime file type and switch your video compressor to h.264 or you can use the media encoder and select your format as h.264 OOOOR you can use the media encoder and select Quicktime as your format, and then change your video codec to h.264. doing it this last way will open up more audio codec options for you. it will also save your file as a .mov extension instead of the .mp4 extension (..although yuo can just rename your .mp4 to .mov if you want)
 
Strange. When I choose Media Encoder>Quicktime I have basically all the codecs you listed, except for AAC. Is there anything I can do to get that option into my system?

When I choose H.264 as my format, AAC is the ONLY option I see. Are you sure I can encode as MP4 and then simply change the file name to .MOV? That might be the best alternative solution.
 
hehe Absolutely not sure at all, but its worth a try. just render out one second of your file as an MP4 and the rename it to .mov. pending the player your loading it into its going to work or not. (i believe its the same encoding either way, just under a differnt file wrapper so it really could possibly just depend on the program openeing the file. some file extensions can be interchangeable like that, but not for all programs and/or file types) of course it may not work at all. i dont think the standard quicktime player wil recognize it if you switch the extension like that becuase its a different file wrapper altogether. but again it can pend what player your trying to use fpr different file types. anyway. it was just a suggestion. aside from that I have to ask why the file extension matters anyway since they both open in quicktime or other compatable players. and i believe that I have AAC under quicktime encoding beacuse i have quicktime pro installed on my system. its only 30.00 so it might not be a bad time to repurchase it. or if you still have your old licesnse jey you can just retype it into your latest release of quicktime to unlock the pro featuers. if the AAC quicktime audio isnt from that (which i think it is because QT pro has AAC as an audio encoding option under H.264 compression) then I dont know what its from. I have alot of third party AV codecs on my machine.
 
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