Edius 4 trial version

nope. I downloaded the trial of 4 about a week and a half ago. no p2 or xdcam options. None of the goodies in broadcast. Gotta get the full version
Jason
 
That's odd. And interesting if true. My week and a half or two week old trial of edius 4 does not allow it. The options are there, but they do not function.
Jason
 
So what about this??

Is it just a bad joke or the truth?
I am unfortunatly out for work(without pc and hvx-babe), so would PLEEAASE someone try the new trial??
 
that could be a joke, becouse demo available (Grass Valley EDIUS Pro v4 NLE Software Demo) is still the same (Released: 07/13/2006) after finishing a project in edius pro 3 i will try out this demo (in week)
sorry for my english
 
bad joke..hope they will release the "real-broadcast-edius4 trial" soon!

Anyone news on using edius broadcast with nx and after effects?
I am really curious if this could be my workflow: editing in edius broadcast, exporting in canopus hq-avi to cc in After effects while checking on control-monitor via nx card..any thoughts/experiences?

Thanks!
 
It doesn't sound like there will be a broadcast trial, but don't quote me on that. Everyone says though that Edius is THE solution as far as p2 workflow is concerned. The trial is for you to decide if everything else is workable. I tried it a little. I think I can live with it. Real-time and native support is very important to me in an NLE, so I am choosing Edius for that reason with my upgrade to the HVX.
Also, as far as I know, there still isn't yet support for third party programs. Version 4 was quite a re-working of things, so the other programs like Boris, etc. are having to re-work things on their end to be compatible with the new version. I haven't heard any indication of when that will be, nor have I seen anything to indicate that it won't be. I don't expect companies to "immediately" release a patch to make their software with Edius. But I do expect it to come with their next update. That would be my guesstimation anyways.
Jason
 
I believe a trial version of Broadcast with P2 and XDCAM support is expected later this month (September).

However, if you installed a previous trial version of Edius 4, I don't think you'll be able to install the new version, you cannot repeatedly uninstall/install the trial versions.
 
You know, I really think there should be some sort of workaround for people that jumped on what was supposedly a trial version of Edius Broadcast back in July only to find out it was only pro... I installed that version with a lot of excitement only to find out I couldn't use it to see how it handled DVCPRO-HD files.... I think I only opened it twice. Maybe I'll just pick up a cheap HDD and install Windows on it to test out the new version...
 
I was frustrated at the same issue, I had a good look at the otehr viable options on how to invest the money and have gone for the full broadcst package . . . it does it all . . . it is great and workflow is smooth. Money well spent. At this point, why wait?
 
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Hi all, hi Bhiga,

I'm going to jump on the bandwagon of frustrated people about this trial version.

I downloaded it, and being on the road, the bandwidth with my Australian mobile modem actually is an issue - not cheap. It turns out, as has been noted here on this thread, to not include the Broadcast features.

Each time I am about to purchase Edius, something holds me back. At first it was the lack of a pervasive keyframing scheme. Now that that is allegedly addressed, this bungle comes along making me wonder what is going on over there with the developers. Is there a reason why this was done, and is there a reason why it has not been corrected?

I want to buy this software for reasons already mentioned on this thread and that I shall echo: it really does seem to be the best solution in terms of performance and native support for our medium. But it scares me that some decision makers are making such poor calls: it just doesn't give faith in the future of the product. I don't care how prominent the corporation is that has bought it, if the decisions being made are poor, they are poor, period.

I pulled in an SD DV clip to at least be able to play a little, and found that it could NOT play it back in real time. The trial of v3 was playing back 720p24 pretty much in realtime on this same machine, so I don't know what is going on. And because there is no broadcast functionality with this version, I can't test my HD clips.

The Help menu that comes with this v4 trial download thinks it is version 3.5/3.6 throwing more confusion into the mix. I looked through the help to see why I couldn't find the new keyframing functionality (I looked at the soft focus and blur filters, and they have no apparent keyframing funationality whatsoever).
The last filter I tried was emboss, which predictably had no keyframing functionality either, and which on top of it all has this utterly crude direction control which gives you a whooping 8 possible directions, rather than the obvious and far more flexible idea of allowing the user to enter an angle of degrees, KEYABLE of course.

Result: I simply don't have the elements on which to base a decision and what I do have isn't looking good.

I may be missing some bizarre way in which the keyframing has been implemented, and which I can't guess for lack of documentation applying to version 4 (hello?)... in which case I'd be happy for someone to point out to me where this functionality is hiding.

Bhiga, are you in a position to talk to these people? Maybe beat some sense into them? :)
It really feels as if the developing team needs to fire some people or hire some extra consultants that can start running the show the way a package of this price should be run. To be blunt.

Thanks,
M
 
I'm in no hurry to jump from Windows to Mac and I like the idea of Edius opening the doors to all the goodness I can squeak out of my HVX but as you mentioned, there are a few very disconcerting issues making the decision difficult.

1. Documentation and support. Just take a look at how many posts are being added to this forum per day in comparison to others, there aren't that many people using the software, or else they aren't posting. This goes for Canopus's website too. Canopus could offset that with excellent tutorials and documentation, but it's not there, not that I've seen by looking in the help on V3 and most of their tutorials limited in scope and are on outdated software.

2. Decisions made by those promoting the product, you hit that one.

3. And this one may only apply to me, but I've had enough fun trying to get multiple programs to work and play nice together when editing. Adobe, Apple and to some degree Avid have figured out how to put together a suite of programs that work and play nice together meaning I can spend more time creating and less time figuring out how to make things work. Again, this is only my opinion, but I think it would be nice to see Canopus bundle some DVD authoring, Compositing, and Audio editing capabilities with their product. Whether it's developed in house or integrated from 3rd party apps like with xpress pro.

My 2 cents
 
I agree that some good in depth tutorials, etc would be an excellent thing. As far as people using Edius. You're right its not so much in comparison to some of the other nle's, but it is my understanding, and personal opinion that That is starting to change relatively quickly. Edius, in a relatively short period has added quite a few broadcast tv stations to their list of customers. I think that is one place you will really see expansion in the market. As for the number of posts here, you are right, of course. But, I remember a couple of weeks ago it would be days before a new post was added to this section, and it was usually me :) But in the last 2 days, their have been several posts up on this section. In time, I think you are going to see much more info. coming on-line about Edius.
As for bundling other programs into the Edius software, I think I read that their main concern (maybe I read that here?) was making the software be powerful and Real-time with native support for all the camera formats. Anything that got in the way of that would not be included. That is pretty ok with me, because real-time and native support is about the most important thing for me, which is why I am ordering Edius with all my equipment in about a week. Other program support is on its way I think. It is just taking some re-working on those companies ends due to the fact that Edius 4 was a pretty big overhaul from previous versions. At least that's my understanding.
Jason
 
IBC was fun. I think I might still be jetlagged though...

Yeah, having to fix the forum wasn't much fun, but Tyrone did most of the work, I just provided the backup index page.

Brandon
 
bhiga said:
A new trial version including Broadcast features will be available soon.
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Good to hear!
Meanwhile, do you know what I am missing in order to keyframe the filters I mentioned above?
Do you know whether there are any plans to simply make all paramaters keyable that would benefit from it?

Thanks,
Malcolm
 
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