editing technique ... how they do that

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raw911

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i saw this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSYMKUtNuw8

and would like to know if anyone has done or knows how this can be done .. id like to give it a shot and it seems very interesting ... but trying to figure out how this was done and if it possible to do in fcp .... anyone has any suggestions?
 
Beginner's guess :D

For the camera work, it seems that they used a crane or a jib for the movement to shoot the singer, something with wheels or roller tripod as tracking tool while the singer is walking.

The moment she is in color, I think they either shot on Green Matte and composited in, or masking each items give them color as one layer, black and white as another layer. I think there is a tutorial in creative cow explain how they select certain color and make rest black and white.

In addition, some transitions like tree passby for changing location is pretty much motiongraphy tricks.

Hiro
 
There is an effect built into FCP called the limit effect. Oddly its part of the three way colour corrector.

This effect allows you to choose one colour and give it different properties to the rest of the image. This does not limit it to saturation, full control over blacks, mids and whites are all separate. Of course, with this you would just desaturate the background. This works well, and is very effective but wont work so well if you want something that is more than one colour to be saturated. I would think this was a fairly manual job, either going through frame by frame and effectively drawing round the talent, or if its a slightly higher-tech production the same thing could be achieved using motion control cameras, doing the shot without the singer, then doing the shot with the singer, but following behind her with a green board. The green could then be keyed out and layered over the top of the original footage and saturation adjusted accordingly.

Whatever effect you are looking for, it can be done in FCP, it might just mean its limited to one colour, takes months to do manualy or needs very posh camera gear...

http://www.geniusdv.com/weblog/archives/pleasantville_effect_for_final_cut_pro.php
Here is a link to a tutorial that will show you how the limit effect works.
 
Two words, roto-scope. Or is that one word?

Basically this is how you do it with still photography in photoshop. Since there are multiple layers of colour it looks like there was some intense roto work done here. That is how I would tackle it from a post visual effects position. Though I am wondering if there was an easier way, since that looks like a royal pain to do.

Hours and hours of work.

It is pretty easy to get one colour to be separate, but with so many layers in there, I can't think of any other way but roto.
 
hard to tell from crappy youtube version but i would guess that she was rotomatted by hand. i can kinda see it in her hair at times i think. i higher res version would likely shed more light. you can make colors pop out of black and white by planning accordingly when shooting. for instance, you can have a particular object or article of clothing pop. for instance you could have your talent wear a bright yellow shirt or pick a color that will not occur anywhere else in the frame. then in post you can key the shirt and then change the color to whatever you want. have each item you wnt to pop be a different color. there may be some of that going on in this video but definitely some other stuff as well. that hair would be a real challenge.

and definitely steadicam was used here.
 
It's hand held until the tree crosses frame. Then it's her in front of a green screen.

Yes the color is roto'd out for sure.

(well that's my guess, as sure as that is)

- G
 
The sequence is all Steadicam. The cuts are very subtle and make it all look like a long, single take. Nicely done. However, I don't care for the talent's wardrobe. She'll probably be criticized if she were a guest on "What Not to Wear."
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There's a camera-mounted light or a handheld light above the camera to help fill in any shadows on the talent. The difference in the nature of the illumination makes the talent look as though she were inserted into the scene. When we were shooting standups for our fishing show someone thought our talent was shot on green screen when he was only broadly lit with a reflector.

The isolated color effect is probably several thousand dollars worth of roto work. I recently did some roto work for a car insurance company's spot. Took 5 to 6 hours to do 3 or 4 seconds and it wasn't all that complex.

Color can be rather forgiving so a slight tracking error here or there might not be noticed as much as if one were trying to roto a background change or insert foreground elements.

Looks like the production company probably has the budget for it.
 
wow .. ok .. so i do have motion and shake ... i would guess that the roto work can be done on one of the 2 or both ... i will have to get my manual out and see what's all involved ... not gonna put alotta time in since this is just a "oh let me try this
" thing
 
raw911 said:
wow .. ok .. so i do have motion and shake ... i would guess that the roto work can be done on one of the 2 or both ... i will have to get my manual out and see what's all involved ... not gonna put alotta time in since this is just a "oh let me try this
" thing
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the closest thing to rotoscoping you can do in FCP is garbage matting. FCP has an 8 point garbage matte but there are 3rd party apps that have 16 points and more.
 
I tried another method where I shot the background plate empty, then had someone hold a green piece of foamcore behind the subject on the second pass. This allowed me to key out just the subject and control the background and foreground separately. However, with this method you are limited to your choice of camera angles, no full shots of the subject, and preferably on sticks, or a real smooth dolly. As a side note, this is also a very easy way to cheat shallow depth of field, as you can defocus your background independently of the subject, and adjust exposure to the background.
 
There's a lot of roto in there, but I don't think it's all manually done...

I guess they've been using trackers/stabilizers for most of the roto's to make the process more effective.

Also I _guess_ that quite a bit of the main character is shot on greenscreen, due to ringing in the edges, BUT this can very well be due to Youtube as well...

But that's just my 2c

Gunleik
 
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