Editing-Exporting-Authoring  24pa Footage &nb

magichristopher

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I have searched the forums and the web trying to find concrete answers and still haven't found any. I seem to find conflicting answers and I am unsure of what to do.

I have been shooting a project in 24pa, because it might go to film in the future, although for the most part I will be delivering on DVD. Every DVD player I have played it on I seem to get major strobing problems that make it impossible to watch. I have ried exporting it in many different ways and I am not sure what the proper way to do this is.

When I export as an avi it gets turned to 29.97 fps footage and when I export to .mpeg I can export at 23.94 but when I go to author to a dvd program it seems to change the framerate back to 29.97. I have tried different authoring programs and no luck yet.

Is vegas the only way to make a true 24p DVD?

Is there a way to succesfully add the pulldown to a 29.97 framerate without strobing?

I am a newbie to the 24p world.
 
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Re: Editing-Exporting-Authoring  24pa Footage &

Hi magicchristopher.

No, Vegas is not the only way to make a 24p DVD. PPro 1.5 can do this very well.

First, do you have version 1.5? Because 1.0 can't do it.

Assuming you have 1.5, are you starting out with one of the Panasonic presets? Are you really sure you are using 24PA and not 24p Normal? What settings MPEG export settings are you using? What DVD Program are you using?

The reason I ask is thtat this should be fairly striaghtforwd.

You must shoot in 24p Advanced. Shooting 24p normal may result in strobing in overexposed areas. (Although 24pN is not a major disaster -- the strobing can be corrected by applying Premiere's ProcAmp filter and reducing the brightness.)

Obiously, you must edit in a PPro 1.5 24p Preset.

You probably want to avoid exporting as a 29.97 AVI. PPro because may introducing Strobing in overxposed areas (Again, use ProcAmp or a similar filter to limit your luminance.)

The best way to get a 24p DVD is to use the Adobe Media Encoder. Select 23.976 fps with progressive frames.

This file should import fine into Adobe Encore without transcoding. I can't speak for other DVD Authoring programs.

I'm curious to get your answers to some of these questions.
 
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Re: Editing-Exporting-Authoring  24pa Footage &amp

Yes I have 1.5 and i am using 24pa. I used the MPEG export and I then I used ulead dvd studio to do the authoring. I am now guessing that ULEAD decides to transcode again to 29.97.

I will try again using Adobe Encore. Thanks for your help!

do you know of any other authoring programs that might work for 24P.
 
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Re: Editing-Exporting-Authoring  24pa Footage &amp

Well, I would think most programs would accept the MPEG without transcoding because technically it is **both** 24p and 29.97 NTSC compatible.

There are only 24 pictures described in the stream each second. But some of them are marked with various combinations of the "Repeat first field" and "Top Field First" flags. This allows your DVD player to generate the required pulldown fields to display on a standard NTSC TV. (A Progressive player hooked to a progressive display can ignore those fields.)

So it should work with all reputable authoring programs.

Just curious -- a question came up once before, a member had a problem similar to yours, and he was using a different encoder "Format" setting, generating a file out of the DVD spec, and Encore insisted on transcoding.

Can you check that when you transcode, the "format" field reads "Format: MPEG2-DVD?"
 
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Re: Editing-Exporting-Authoring  24pa Footage &amp

Encore DVD is the way to go. It will not transcode your Mpeg2 File, but make sure you encode in pp1.5
 
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Re: Editing-Exporting-Authoring  24pa Footage &amp

Hi there,

I'm new to this forum that seems filled with some knowledgable people.

my question for anyonw willing to answer is... why is it that when I go into Premiere Pro 1.5 that I cannot create a 24p timeline? there are all the presets for NTSC and PAL but the only time I can insert 24fps is in movie for windows or whatever that thing is. So if one of you kind people can throw me a bone, it would be much appreciated.

a little background:
I always shoot 24pa on the 100a.
my system meets or excedes all requirements.
I'm not sure about my capture card though.
it's an ADS Pyro PCI 64.

thanks for your time.
Talk to ya soon.

Tom
 
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Re: Editing-Exporting-Authoring  24pa Footage

Hi magicchristopher,

I don't use PP1.5, but I'm not sure that its a 1.5 problem - it may be doing exactly what you are asking. If you try to view 24P on a CRT it strobes/flickers. When you export an AVI and it converts it to 29.97 does that strobe?
 
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