John Bertram
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Using: FCP 5.0.2 on a G5 dual 1.8 under OS 10.4.2
Experience level: tons of analog editing; still getting familiar with NLE
Project material: mostly 24p DV shot on DVX-100 & DVX-100a
Issue:
Am having a very frustrating problem with out-of-sync footage from a DVX100 and Final Cut Pro 5.0.2.
After learning that this was a "known issue", I located, installed and began to use the "Panasonic DVX100 Audio Sync Tool" available from the Extras folder on my FCP install disk, which adds an easy-to-use Offset Audio Sync command to my Tools menu (the default setting for which, at +2 frames, is usually just right to deal with this bizarre business of the DVX100 sometimes delivering audio that's 2 frames ahead of the video).
But here's the new problem:
If I look at that now-in-sync clip in the Viewer, and simply add an In Point (as a sync mark for the creation of a mutliclip, or just to begin using the clip in a Sequence timeline), the audio offset suddenly disappears, and I have to re-apply it from the Tools menu. But then if I move or re-set the In Point, the audio offset disappears again -- and again I have to re-apply it!
This is getting crazy: so now whenever I set an In Point for a clip whose footage was originated on the DVX100 (as opposed to the 100a, which was our "B cam"), I have to first re-apply the Audio Offset before I add that clip to a sequence? And re-apply it again every time I happen to change that clip's In Point?
I notice in the Apple Read Me file for this plugin, it says: "When you modify clips using the Offset Audio Sync command, the corresponding media files are unaffected. Only the clips in your current project are adjusted."
But what if I WANT the media files to be adjusted, so that the corrected sync remains locked in?
ARRGHHHH.
So now, the questions become:
- Why is this Offset Audio Sync so tentative that merely assigning or changing an In Point "Undoes" the command?
- Could there be something in how I'm applying it (though I don't see what) that's causing this?
And if the answers to the above are: "Who knows?" and "I doubt it", then do I need to adopt the following workflow for each of the 7 or 8 "A cam" DV tapes still remaining to be captured:
1) Capture everything useful from the tape (either by logging first and Batch Capturing, or by Capturing Now and then using "DV Start/Stop Detect", "Make Subclip", and logging in the Browser);
2) drag all those new clips into a blank Timeline;
3) unlink the audio tracks from the video;
4) shift all the audio tracks two frames to the right;
5) relink the audio tracks with the video;
6) use the Blade All tool to even off the beginnings and ends of each clip;
7) then drag all the now in-sync clips back over to the Browser, where I make these newly-added clips into Master Clips, and finally delete the original out-of-sync Master Clips altogether?
A test I just did on one clip treated this way confirms that it holds on to its new sync no matter how many In Points I proceed to enter and change in the Viewer -- which makes sense, since the above workflow bypasses this fragile "Offset Audio Synch" tool altogether.
So, despite my initial relief at discovering the "Panasonic DVX100 Audio Sync Tool" plugin, it now looks like I'll just have to ignore it and create whole new, sync-adjusted clips via the Timeline.
Unless one of the experienced denizens of this list can offer a simpler solution!
At this point, the floor is open for all nominations.
Experience level: tons of analog editing; still getting familiar with NLE
Project material: mostly 24p DV shot on DVX-100 & DVX-100a
Issue:
Am having a very frustrating problem with out-of-sync footage from a DVX100 and Final Cut Pro 5.0.2.
After learning that this was a "known issue", I located, installed and began to use the "Panasonic DVX100 Audio Sync Tool" available from the Extras folder on my FCP install disk, which adds an easy-to-use Offset Audio Sync command to my Tools menu (the default setting for which, at +2 frames, is usually just right to deal with this bizarre business of the DVX100 sometimes delivering audio that's 2 frames ahead of the video).
But here's the new problem:
If I look at that now-in-sync clip in the Viewer, and simply add an In Point (as a sync mark for the creation of a mutliclip, or just to begin using the clip in a Sequence timeline), the audio offset suddenly disappears, and I have to re-apply it from the Tools menu. But then if I move or re-set the In Point, the audio offset disappears again -- and again I have to re-apply it!
This is getting crazy: so now whenever I set an In Point for a clip whose footage was originated on the DVX100 (as opposed to the 100a, which was our "B cam"), I have to first re-apply the Audio Offset before I add that clip to a sequence? And re-apply it again every time I happen to change that clip's In Point?
I notice in the Apple Read Me file for this plugin, it says: "When you modify clips using the Offset Audio Sync command, the corresponding media files are unaffected. Only the clips in your current project are adjusted."
But what if I WANT the media files to be adjusted, so that the corrected sync remains locked in?
ARRGHHHH.
So now, the questions become:
- Why is this Offset Audio Sync so tentative that merely assigning or changing an In Point "Undoes" the command?
- Could there be something in how I'm applying it (though I don't see what) that's causing this?
And if the answers to the above are: "Who knows?" and "I doubt it", then do I need to adopt the following workflow for each of the 7 or 8 "A cam" DV tapes still remaining to be captured:
1) Capture everything useful from the tape (either by logging first and Batch Capturing, or by Capturing Now and then using "DV Start/Stop Detect", "Make Subclip", and logging in the Browser);
2) drag all those new clips into a blank Timeline;
3) unlink the audio tracks from the video;
4) shift all the audio tracks two frames to the right;
5) relink the audio tracks with the video;
6) use the Blade All tool to even off the beginnings and ends of each clip;
7) then drag all the now in-sync clips back over to the Browser, where I make these newly-added clips into Master Clips, and finally delete the original out-of-sync Master Clips altogether?
A test I just did on one clip treated this way confirms that it holds on to its new sync no matter how many In Points I proceed to enter and change in the Viewer -- which makes sense, since the above workflow bypasses this fragile "Offset Audio Synch" tool altogether.
So, despite my initial relief at discovering the "Panasonic DVX100 Audio Sync Tool" plugin, it now looks like I'll just have to ignore it and create whole new, sync-adjusted clips via the Timeline.
Unless one of the experienced denizens of this list can offer a simpler solution!
At this point, the floor is open for all nominations.