DVX & Anamorphic: BLOW-UP to HD in Vegas

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Rod_and_Todd

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I have this theory but never tried it and would like to know your opinions / experience out there on that subject:

We all would like to film HD :P . Unfortunately the DVX cannot do that yet. What is the best work-around to achieve near HD quality?

What I would do:

1. Use the Panasonic Anamorphic Adapater and shoot in 24PA (or 24P)
2. Use the entire frame in Vegas (I use PAL), stretch the anamorphic picture and blow-up the picture when rendering to 720p (1280x720p)

My idea is that blowing-up the picture in Vegas during rendering would yield acceptable results when viewed in HD and better results when producing a 35mm copy as compared to using the standard "cropped" 16x9 PAL image.

Has anyone done that? What are the drawbacks apart from reduced colorspace compared to current HD (DVCPRO50, HDCAM)

QUESTION:
How do I blow up the image in Vegas? I try to render as HD but do not know the right Codec to use. To I have to install a special codec to do that? What are the settings to be used? Help! I want cheap near-HD!! ;)
 
Re: DVX & Anamorphic: BLOW-UP to HD in Vegas

Just for better understanding:
I am looking mainly at achieving HD (720p) resolution using Vegas and the DVX100.
 
Re: DVX & Anamorphic: BLOW-UP to HD in Vegas

I did some tests, blowing up in Vegas to HD resolution. While Vegas did a decent job, I found the results to be too soft.

I've since been playing around with S-Spline Pro, and it does a MUCH SHARPER blowup. If you can get around the 4:1:1 chroma sampling issue, I think there's a good chance you'll be pleased with the results you get -- it looks to me like it delivers about 80-85% of the resolution of the JVC HD1, but with the DVX's luxurious colors, contrast, latitude, etc.
 
Re: DVX & Anamorphic: BLOW-UP to HD in Vegas

Thanx,
I am checking out S-Spline Pro right now.

Q1:
BTW did you achieve your results (80% compared to JVC-HD1) using the anamorphic adapter or without?

Q2:
What CODEC did you use? When I choose DV (PAL or NTSC) Vegas will grey out the resolution option (fix it).

I think this is a very interesting topic, cause many broadcasters or festivals treat you differently if you submit footage in HD. Optimizing "blow-up" can make a difference when the budget is limited.
 
Re: DVX & Anamorphic: BLOW-UP to HD in Vegas

I tried a blow-up with S-Spline Pro but it seems to work only on Image files - or am I just to stupid? Any work-around in order to use S-Spline Pro on Film. I can't imagine you've tested it by exporting each frame as an image file then using the batch function in S-Spline Pro and then reinstering every frame into vegas to turn it back into 24p video. ;)
 
Re: DVX & Anamorphic: BLOW-UP to HD in Vegas

[quote author=Rod_and_Todd link=board=Vegas;num=1070889797;start=0#3 date=12/10/03 at 03:08:46]
Q1:
BTW did you achieve your results (80% compared to JVC-HD1) using the anamorphic adapter or without?
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With.

Q2:
What CODEC did you use?
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In order to get the smoothed edges, I output using the Matrox codec, with chroma filtering turned on.

As for images, you create a new batch, and add the series of stills all at once, and then tell it to run the batch. It'll automatically resize them all for you.
 
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