DVD from DV AVI or uncompressed AVI?

downsouth

downsouth

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What's the difference in a (DV AVI) export verses an (uncompressed AVI) for use with DVD encoders? Is there that much difference in resolution on the DVD?

Is there another export codec that's better?

DV AVI is so much faster to make.

Using PP2.......and not satisfied with the export to DVD results on PP2.

Thanks,
Jeff
 
If you want to use a different encoder (Than main concept inside ppro2) then
an uncompressed AVI would be far better than a DVAVI (as PPro ReCompresses) however the file size of an unpressed AVI is massive but it you can a commidate it
go for it
 
it only makes a difference if you are doing heavy ccing or effects that you don't want rendered in a 4:1:1 color space. Your original data is 4:1:1 so converting this to 4:4:4 and then to mpeg2 doesn't make a differnce only the added or altered color data will be effected.
 
EG...excuse my inexperience here...

So "if" Ive color corrected a piece then the MP2 WILL be effected if exported to DVD from the timeline.......correct?

If so, I should render an uncompressed movie that is color corrected, "then" make the MP2 (export the new color corrected movie to DVD).

My brain hurts. haha

Jeff
 
Hey,

So "if" Ive color corrected a piece then the MP2 WILL be effected if exported to DVD from the timeline.......correct?

No, not EFFECTED it will be compressed but as long as you do it correctly MainConcept compresser producers ok images which are completly ok for DVD


If so, I should render an uncompressed movie that is color corrected, "then" make the MP2 (export the new color corrected movie to DVD).

Yes as long as you intend to take the uncompressed movie into another program for MPEG2 compression other wise there is no point the result from premeire would be the same

Hope this helps

Ash
 
Thanks ASH...

That answered my question. I will just use PP2 and export to DVD. As long as I have good video to start with, PP2 should give me a good quality DVD without having to use another encoder tool.

thanks again,
Jeff
 
Yeah to get the best result on DVD its about setting the enccoder up correctly if its under half an hour user CBR 8mit and quilty 5 if its long youll need a bitrate calc
 
PhantomVideo said:
Yeah to get the best result on DVD its about setting the enccoder up correctly if its under half an hour user CBR 8mit and quilty 5 if its long youll need a bitrate calc
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Is there a bitrate calculator in PP2?....if not, where can I download one.

Thanks,
Jeff
 
http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm is the one i use, prem does have one built in, but it just guessitmates. Now for a long project you want to use 2pass VBR, the setting you will adjust is the "target bitrate" make sure it the qulity is still set to 5 it should always be at five unless your in a hurry, if your doing a small run (duplicated not replicated) ive also found its a good idea to not fill the DVD completely the outer each of DVD discs is a really fussy point for cheap players and if your distrubution is small to medium like 100 copys then its worth keeping it safe than heaps of people sending them back

Cheers
Ash
 
dv avi will look very interlaced and low res. If you care about the footage then ALWAYS use an uncompressed AVI.

For my HD stuff I keep all my footage in Raylight AVI format as a Digital Intermediate. Works well...wish Raylight would do SD (Marcus? Please?)

You can buy 500gig external hard drives for less than $100 to flip flop big files onto...just format it NTFS...they often come formatted to fat32 for maximum compatibility out of the box.
 
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Arson wrote: "If you care about the footage then ALWAYS use an uncompressed AVI. "
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I tried that with TMPGen, using an external drive to hold my uncomp AVI..TMPGen would not accept it as a valid file????

"If"...I export to DVD from the PP2 "timeline", isnt that using the uncompressed(original) footage Ive captured to make the DVD? ......Im sure it is. It's just that the encoder in Adobe PP2 is not as good as some others on the market...I assume. Maybe the lastest version of Premiere in CS3 has improved the encoder.

But for now, I can live with PP2.

Thanks for the input,
Jeff
 
downsouth said:
Arson wrote: "If you care about the footage then ALWAYS use an uncompressed AVI. "
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I tried that with TMPGen, using an external drive to hold my uncomp AVI..TMPGen would not accept it as a valid file????
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That's because the Uncompressed .avi option actually uses a lossless codec (YUV 422 or something if I remember correctly) that's not readable by most other applications. After Effects will read it and Premiere will read it. What you want to do is select Microsoft DV avi option and set the compressor to None. The resulting file will work with all other apps.
 
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