plainman007
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Dvd Arch has some simple controls to enhance the video etc. I was wondering if there was something to slightly increase sound levels. Is there anything like that within ?
DVD Arch ...Sound level Ajustment Available ?
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Not that I know of.
Matt Grunau
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DVD authoring programs are not editors, video or ortherwise. I use Encore, and experimented with DVD Architect (which seems more difficult for me, for some reason) and have had many of the same desires to edit/change assests once they are in the program.
A DVD authoring program expects you to have finished work when you put the files in. If you are needing to lower sound volumes, that should have been done in your NLA. The newest version of Encore allows multiple items to be placed in one timeline, which helps if you have multiple files and want them all to line up, but you can't tweak them, just lay them in.
If your sound is too loud or you need to enhance video, you should do it in your NLE and export it correctly. DVD programs make DVDs and that's about it. But, that's ok, if you think about it. It's the responsibility of the video maker to ensure his work is finalized at the time of burning.
But as a time saver, if your audio is to loud, all you need to rerender is your audio, and then swap out the old with the new inside your DVD program. That doesn't take long.
A DVD authoring program expects you to have finished work when you put the files in. If you are needing to lower sound volumes, that should have been done in your NLA. The newest version of Encore allows multiple items to be placed in one timeline, which helps if you have multiple files and want them all to line up, but you can't tweak them, just lay them in.
If your sound is too loud or you need to enhance video, you should do it in your NLE and export it correctly. DVD programs make DVDs and that's about it. But, that's ok, if you think about it. It's the responsibility of the video maker to ensure his work is finalized at the time of burning.
But as a time saver, if your audio is to loud, all you need to rerender is your audio, and then swap out the old with the new inside your DVD program. That doesn't take long.
MisterCat
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going on the assumption you're rendering out of Vegas...when you select AC-3 in the render dialogue box, click on Custom. On the Audio Service tab, change the Dialogue Normalization setting to -31dB. Then go to the Preprocessing tab and change the Line Mode and RF profiles to "none". Select ok and render your file. Volume should be higher now when you bring this into DVDA. Keep in mind these default settings do serve a purpose, so change them, check out the results, and decide if it's what you want. As Matt said, rendering the audio file doesn't take long so you can experiment easily.
steven
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plainman007
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Matt > Im taking ripped Vob files from a dvds that we would like to back up etc. Sometimes we even take small clips from dvds that have been created a long time back (If thats all the sponsor/client has). Sometimes even a large client will not have access to his own company adfilm (which the ad agency will have to release and is a complicated process) and we are supposed to use at our event which they have sponsored. He only has a dvd. In cases like this i usually rip the vob files out and drop them on the dvd arch timeline and just burn. Works fine most times except that i notice a volume drop lower than that on the original file. But your analogy that "a dvd authoring program is only to author and not for finetuning or any adjustments" i wouldnt accept ....BECAUSE.... then why does dvd architect allow you to fine tune your video alone ??? LOL. Yeah i know its ironic. Take a good look at your music/video compilation lists on the DVDA timeline. You have color correctional controls. AUTOCONTRAST. AUTOCOLOR. AUTOBRIGHT,,,,,,even Manual controls to adjust these things. How do you justify that, but say that a simple audio volume leveler shouldnt have been in the program. There are a number of video fine tuning tools in DVDA which ive never even used once. But the audio, not even a simple DB +/- control. It seems silly to me that the designers skimped out on that despite your explanation towards the authoring concept.
Mister Cat > Yes if i were to drop these VOB files (as mentioned above) into Vegas i could do all this. But,,,its an additionally cumbersome step (twice the render time and probable loss of quality). Secondly, Vegas may not import a vob which has a 5.1 track attached to it. Been there,,, done that....doesnt work. The dialog will go completely out of sync etc. Too much trouble to just back up a dvd. But the flaw is the volume drops to vey low levels when i use my usual method in DVDA. Which is why i wished there was a simple audio leveler built in. (when they could offer color correctional tools) im sure some simple audio tool would have been justified.
In closing i know that the only way out would be to put the vobs onto the vegas timeline. Once there everything is fine tuneable. BUT NOT ALL VOBS RUN WELL on the Vegas timeline. Ive some Vobs give me a hell of a time. Only certain particular ones. I have every reason to suspect its because of the soundtrack embedded. Because Vegas doesnt import 5.1 AC3. It can export but cant import onto its timeline. And if it cant youll get outof sync audio. A file that will only play 1 min. And what not !.
David Jimerson > "IF"... i were to work with vobs on the vegas timeline and render using one of the DVDA templates (which from most discussions ive come to understand doesnt go thru a rerender in DVDA). Then will DVDA finish the job faster, i mean the first step where it says rendering then it goes to preparing and then burning. Will it quick skip thru the first step ?? at least considerably faster. At the moment it takes about 1.5 hrs for a 120 min dvd (almost realtime) when working with vob files. Will the vegas process ensure DVDA doesnt do the rendering step for long ? (because ive noticed thats the longest step taken by DVDA).
Mister Cat > Yes if i were to drop these VOB files (as mentioned above) into Vegas i could do all this. But,,,its an additionally cumbersome step (twice the render time and probable loss of quality). Secondly, Vegas may not import a vob which has a 5.1 track attached to it. Been there,,, done that....doesnt work. The dialog will go completely out of sync etc. Too much trouble to just back up a dvd. But the flaw is the volume drops to vey low levels when i use my usual method in DVDA. Which is why i wished there was a simple audio leveler built in. (when they could offer color correctional tools) im sure some simple audio tool would have been justified.
In closing i know that the only way out would be to put the vobs onto the vegas timeline. Once there everything is fine tuneable. BUT NOT ALL VOBS RUN WELL on the Vegas timeline. Ive some Vobs give me a hell of a time. Only certain particular ones. I have every reason to suspect its because of the soundtrack embedded. Because Vegas doesnt import 5.1 AC3. It can export but cant import onto its timeline. And if it cant youll get outof sync audio. A file that will only play 1 min. And what not !.
David Jimerson > "IF"... i were to work with vobs on the vegas timeline and render using one of the DVDA templates (which from most discussions ive come to understand doesnt go thru a rerender in DVDA). Then will DVDA finish the job faster, i mean the first step where it says rendering then it goes to preparing and then burning. Will it quick skip thru the first step ?? at least considerably faster. At the moment it takes about 1.5 hrs for a 120 min dvd (almost realtime) when working with vob files. Will the vegas process ensure DVDA doesnt do the rendering step for long ? (because ive noticed thats the longest step taken by DVDA).