Don't need no steenking matte box...

it should be your footage that shows you are a pro, not the look of the equipment



"A matt box is one of difference between professional and amateur

when people a cam with one on they assume you know what you're doing"


What an incredibly sad a statement to make.

I agree that it should not matter. But i believe that Icarus knows this too. He was just refering to the impression a client may have on set. Honestly some people could come on set and take a look at your matte box, lens and filter kits, tripod/steadycam, firestore, monitor, etc. And say, "wow this guy must know what he's doing. I'm glad i paid him what i did for this production."

Another professional may know this isn't the case but to a client who may only judge on the setup of the production would definately prefer a cameraman with the extra gear to a guy with black wrap around his camera.
 
If you are seriously considering buying a Matte Box and have extra to spend than the Formatt, I highly recommend the Vocas 350. Its superbly made, widescreen, has 4 filter holders and it's still quite light. Fits on 15mm rails, so it you knock the Matte Box you are not going to damage the lens.
http://www.vocas.com/pages/mb350.htm
 
The Machinist said:
I agree that it should not matter. But i believe that Icarus knows this too. He was just refering to the impression a client may have on set. Honestly some people could come on set and take a look at your matte box, lens and filter kits, tripod/steadycam, firestore, monitor, etc. And say, "wow this guy must know what he's doing. I'm glad i paid him what i did for this production."

Another professional may know this isn't the case but to a client who may only judge on the setup of the production would definately prefer a cameraman with the extra gear to a guy with black wrap around his camera.

Sorry, no.

You hire based on past work ie: a reel or previously shot footage, not their toy box.

It was a sad statement, and still is.
 
So are we sure the HVX200 will work with the Fomatt FM-500 Matte Box using their 82mm adapter?

thxs
Steve
 
The Vocas looks awesome, but I think it's quite pricey. I think I'll be quite happy with the Formatt and the extra $1,000 still in my pocket!
 
Do you need a a Mattebox? No.

Do you need a Tripod? No.

I have seen the light (pun) and will never shoot without a Mattebox; I regulary use the ND Grad and Pol like their going out of style.

Do it in post? What are you smoking? Perhaps for an FX shot but for trying to 'build' a sky? Huh?

The thing I object to about grad filters is that the grad effect runs into the subject as well, and the grad effect is obvious.

Not if you have rotating and/or adjustable (Sliding up and down). Sides; if the effect is hitting your talent then maybe you havent planned the shot properly. Sometimes the effect is obvious (To a pro) but mostly the effect is stunning

(ofcourse, it's tougher if handheld because of tracking problems, but I prefer locking down the camera, so it's no biggie).

You keep making statement like this and I'm going to hand out the Troll Award of the Month to you.

Stabwound

If you make this decision or have come to this conclusion based on what I'm reading then you are mistaken and grossly naive.

Check out www.cavision.com for Mattebox/Lens Shade options as reasonable prices.

Like I said (and perhaps I should have stressed), I prefer to lock down the camera for my shots

And for Dolly? Steadicam? Hand-Held? Crane? Jib?

Look you may like the rudimentary lockdowns but most of us need movement.

Maybe I'm lucky because I do my own shooting and my own post-work... and know how much post work will be involved even before I set up my first shot. "Salvaging" shots through post work means I'm a lousy camera guy in the first place... but so far, I've had to salvage very little.

Show us the materpiece and quit yammering, will ya?
 
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